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ops155: "You spit in someones eye you better be prepaired to get punched in the nose and beat down. Just the way the world works."

No, really? Then that must explain the New York and Pentagon attacks on September 11th. Just the way the world works, nothing to see here, move along please.

believer:"Anyone have an opinion on who build the Gaza up to be such a desirable place to live?"

I love this question! So lacking in any ulterior motive, so innocent and sweet. Such a concerned citizen seeking answers to the burning questions in his life. It warms the heart.

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"Let us get one thing perfectly straight. If the wholesale mutilation and degradation of the Gaza Strip is going to continue; if Israel�s will is at one with that of the United States; if the European Union, Russia, the United Nations and all the international legal agencies and organizations spread across the globe are going to continue to sit by like hollow mannequins doing nothing but making repeated �calls� for a �ceasefire� on �both sides�; if the cowardly, obsequious and supine Arab States are going to stand by watching their brethren get slaughtered by the hour while the world�s bullying Superpower eyes them threateningly from Washington lest they say something a little to their disliking; then let us at least tell the truth why this hell on earth is taking place.

This crisis has nothing to do with freedom, democracy, justice or peace. It is not about Mahmoud Zahhar or Khalid Mash�al or Ismail Haniyeh. It is not about Hassan Nasrallah or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. These are all circumstantial players who have gained a role in the current tempest only now that the situation has been allowed for 61 years to develop into the catastrophe that it is today. The Islamist factor has colored and will continue to color the atmosphere of the crisis; it has enlisted the current leaders and mobilized wide sectors of the world�s population. The primary symbols today are Islamic � the mosques, the Qur�an, the references to the Prophet Muhammad and to Jihad. But these symbols could disappear and the impasse would continue.

Strip away the clich�s and the vacuous newspeak blaring out across the servile media and its pathetic corps of voluntary state servants in the Western world and what you will find is the naked desire for hegemony; for power over the weak and dominion over the world�s wealth. Worse yet you will find that the selfishness, the hatred and indifference, the racism and bigotry, the egotism and hedonism that we try so hard to cover up with our sophisticated jargon, our refined academic theories and models actually help to guide our basest and ugliest desires. "


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So what is your answer?

 
John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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Originally posted by believer believer wrote:

So what is your answer?

 


Who were you addressing your question to?

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As usual, dumb looks are still free
You seem to project yourself as Mr. know it all....
So what was your question?



Edited by Sign*Reader - 03 January 2009 at 8:00pm
Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.
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Originally posted by believer believer wrote:

So what is your answer?

 
 
Hi Believer,
 
I would like to ask you a question, If Jesus were to be alive now, whose side will he be with? The Israelis or the Palestinians?
 
My answer will be the Palestinians. And Jesus alaihissalam would be very ashamed of the so-called Christians who support war, torture, rape, grabbing of lands, killing of innocent women and children who are defenceless without any weapon whatsoever.
 
He would definitely say - Same on you Christians for believing a group of people who worship The Anti-Christ - The Devil.
 
Shame on you Christians (like you Believer) who sided with the Evil Group of people who worship my biggest enemy - The Anti Christ = The Devil!
 
What will be your defence?


Edited by Nur_Ilahi - 04 January 2009 at 5:43am
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Ops 155 wrote - Perhaps too many on this forum are blinded by their own hate of israel and AVAAZ can see why this is Hamas who caused this latest battle and therefor hasn't said much about it.

How can one not hate Israel who loves killing, robbing, pillaging not only a village, but the whole country?

How can one not hate Israel for letting vineyards, olive farms being demolished and in place build settlements for a group of people who love Evil?

How can one not hate Israel who uses bombs, weapons of mass destruction on defenseless people whose fault is only to live peacefully in their own homeland.

How can one not hate Israel who let their IDF gleefully torture Palestinians at gunpoint, roll over a defenseless anti-war volunteer with a bulldozer, let a poor pregnant Palestinian woman being harassed in checkpoints and kill innocent children haphazardly?

Only people who do not understand LOVE, who are being fed with EVIL their whole lives, will stand behind these group of EVIL people.

You spit in someones eye you better be prepaired to get punched in the nose and beat down. Just the way the world works.

No my dear boy, it is not to get punched in the nose and beat down, but being bombed with weapons of mass destruction, not only to the person who spit (I am sure for a good reason) but to the whole village of poor defenseless people.

For this group of people with a sick mentality, this is JUSTICE. Tsk tsk tsk�

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Nur Ilahi -your statements reek of prejudice- not all of Israel would support the things that IDF has done.  Just as not all U.S. citizens support all the things Bush has done.
 
Nur-you are forgetting that it is Hamas that started this latest rocket firings.
 
You spit in someones eye you better be prepaired to get punched in the nose and beat down. Just the way the world works.
 
That is the eye for eye mentality.
 
What would Jesus say?
 
Matthew 5
 
An Eye for an Eye
 
 38"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' 39But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. 41If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
Love for Enemies
 43"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' 44But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
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Originally posted by believer believer wrote:

Nur Ilahi -your statements reek of prejudice- not all of Israel would support the things that IDF has done.  Just as not all U.S. citizens support all the things Bush has done.
 
Nur-you are forgetting that it is Hamas that started this latest rocket firings.
 
You spit in someones eye you better be prepaired to get punched in the nose and beat down. Just the way the world works.
 
That is the eye for eye mentality.
 
What would Jesus say?
 
Matthew 5
 
An Eye for an Eye
 
 38"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' 39But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. 41If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
Love for Enemies
 43"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' 44But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
hebrews 8:13   By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear .
 
 the jews had their covenant taken from them.
 and they are still "lost"
peace leland


Edited by Nazarene - 04 January 2009 at 6:40am
love for all conquers all
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