Leaving Islam Punishable by Death?...

Contradiction of the hadith u mentioned with the Holy Quran

It is not possible for a fair-minded person to reconcile the following verses of the Holy Quran with this tradition:

2.57, 100, 109, 218, 257, 273 3.21, 73, 86�92, 145 4.83, 138, 139, 146 5.55, 62, 91�3, 99�100 6.67, 105�8, 126 7.124�9 9.11�14 10.100�9 13.41 15.10 16.83, 105�7, 126 17.55 18.30 19.47 20.72�4

22.40 24.55 25.42�4 26.117 28.57 29.19 39.30�42 40.26, 27 42.7, 8, 48, 49 47.26 50.46 51.57 64.9�13 66.7 88.22�3

Holy Quran says

Whoso seeks a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the life to come he shall be among the losers. How shall Allah guide a people who have disbelieved after having believed and who had borne witness that the Messenger is true and to him clear proofs had come? Allah guides not the wrongdoers. Of such the punishment is that on them shall be the curse of Allah and of angels and of men, all together, the reunder shall they abide. Their punishment shall not be lightened nor shall they be granted respite; except in the case of those who repent thereafter and amend. Surely, Allah is Most Forgiving, Ever Merciful. Those who disbelieve after having believed, and then continue to advance in disbelief, their repentance shall not be accepted. Those are they who have gone utterly astray. From anyone of those who have disbelieved, and die while they are disbelievers, there shall not be accepted even an earth full of gold, though he offer it in ransom. For those there shall be a grievous punishment, and they shall have no helper. (3.86�92)

It is obvious from these verses that no punishment is to be inflicted by one man on another for apostasy. The words �thereunder shall they abide� clearly refer to the life hereafter. By no stretch of imagination can any sane person interpret the words �curse of Allah� to be a license to murder anyone whom he considers to be an apostate. No capital punishment is mentioned. If it had, according to the strict requirements of the law, the punishment would have been clearly defined, as in the case of all other hodud (punishments specifically prescribed in the Holy Quran). On the contrary, the Holy Quran mentions the possibility of repentance by such persons and subsequent forgiveness by God. How can anyone repent and atone for his sins in this world if he has been killed?

Holy Quran says

If thy Lord had enforced His Will, surely all those on the earth would have believed without exception. Will thou than take it upon thyself to force people to become believers? Except by Allah�s leave no one can believe and He will afflict with His wrath those who will not use their understanding. (10.100�1)

When God Himself does not force people to believe, who are we to raise the sword to force belief.

(This is a copy paste of  the words of a scholar).

as posted before Quran says;

''Whoso seeks a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the life to come he shall be among the losers. How shall Allah guide a people who have disbelieved after having believed and who had borne witness that the Messenger is true and to him clear proofs had come? Allah guides not the wrongdoers. Of such the punishment is that on them shall be the curse of Allah and of angels and of men, all together, the reunder shall they abide. Their punishment shall not be lightened nor shall they be granted respite; except in the case of those who repent thereafter and amend. Surely, Allah is Most Forgiving, Ever Merciful. Those who disbelieve after having believed, and then continue to advance in disbelief, their repentance shall not be accepted. Those are they who have gone utterly astray. From anyone of those who have disbelieved, and die while they are disbelievers, there shall not be accepted even an earth full of gold, though he offer it in ransom. For those there shall be a grievous punishment, and they shall have no helper.'' (3.86�92)


even if we were to assume that the punishment of apostate is death from the above verse (eventhough it isnt so) but above verse clearly says that  the believer knew in his heart that the messenger is true but still intentionally  turned a disbeliever despite knowing the truth, so such is punishable to death,
so the question that comes to mind then is how the humans will find out  whats in the heart of the apostate. how they will know about his ill intentions that he knew the truth. Its Only Allah who knows the best whats in others heart, what their intentions are.

as Allah says in Quarn
Call unto the way of thy Lord with wisdom and goodly exhortation. and reason with them on the basis of that which is best. Thy Lord knows best those who have strayed away from His way; and He knows best those who are rightly guided.(16.126)

So its only in Gods hand to punish, no human can take this in their own hands or their will only be murder of the innocent.


Edited by H3OO - 15 September 2008 at 2:15am

another point that can be raised is that THE hadith states the narrator was Ikramah, so it also raises a question about the truthfulness/authenticity of the narrator. what he(Ikramah)  says are neither the words of God nor the prophet.
what he says doesnt necessarily means that this is what actually happened or this is what actually was said. and quranic verses, logic, common sense surely do go against  it.


Edited by H3OO - 15 September 2008 at 11:24pm

H3OO wrote: Whenever any so-called tradition attributed to the Holy Prophet of Islam[sa] contradicts any clear injunction of the Holy Quran, such a tradition is rejected as false and is not accepted as the word of the Holy Prophet[sa].