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JihadX
Senior Member Joined: 20 June 2008 Status: Offline Points: 258 |
Topic: Jews Posted: 22 June 2008 at 8:05pm |
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Asalaamu Alaikum!
Can anyone explain the connection between jews and islam, if there is any connection. Also, why are Jews being discriminated against? I don't get it!!
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Israfil
Senior Member Joined: 08 September 2003 Status: Offline Points: 3984 |
Posted: 22 June 2008 at 9:10pm | |||
JihadX
If I may answer your question the connection between Judaism and Islam starts at the basic level of monotheism. both believe in the Abrahamic God. Both believe that Abraham known as Al-Hanif in Islam is the one who turned away from polytheism towards monotheism. You can say Abraham is the founding father of a structured monotheistic faith. Islam, like Judaism also acknowledges that God transcends physical reality, that is, is an immaterial being with no form or is composed of any material substance. Islam like Judaism believes in structured laws to guide the community and these laws operates on spiritual morality such as doing right and forbidding wrong etc.
You also asked "Why are the Jews being discriminated against?" this is an ambiguous question because you have not highlighted who the oppressor is. Assuming you must be referring to the Palestinian/Israeli situation I am inclined to say that this situation involved both protagonist and antagonists on both sides. Yes there are Jews who are being discriminated against but there are Jews who discriminate themselves it depends what you are talking about.
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JihadX
Senior Member Joined: 20 June 2008 Status: Offline Points: 258 |
Posted: 22 June 2008 at 9:33pm | |||
For exaple,with Hitler and The Holocaust. I've always wondered why the Jews were chosen to be primary victims of the holocaust. To me they seem like average people.
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�The knife that slaughtered the guards at Bagram and set us free is now on its way to other places,�
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seekshidayath
Senior Member Female Islam Joined: 26 March 2006 Location: India Status: Offline Points: 3357 |
Posted: 23 June 2008 at 8:10am | |||
Your second part of question - Discrmination against --- Its unclear
Here are some more details that shall help you understand Jews and Islam { connection } better. It is from Quran and hadith. On the whole - its a fact
The Children of Israel remained on the straight path for a period of time after Moses. They then innovated in the religion and some of them even worshipped the idols. Yet, there were always Prophets sent among them who would command them to work righteous deeds, refrain from doing evil and who would rule them according to the commands of the Torah. When they (Israelites) committed the evil that they committed, Allah caused their enemies to overwhelm them, and many fatalities fell among them as a consequence. Their enemies also captured a great number of them, and took over large areas of their land. Earlier, anyone who would fight the Israelites would lose, because they had the Torah and the Tabut, which they inherited generation after generation ever since the time of Moses, who spoke to Allah directly. Yet, the Israelites kept indulging in misguidance until some king took the Tabut from them during a battle. That king also took possession of the Torah, and only a few of the Israelites who memorized it remained.
The prophethood halted among their various tribes and only a pregnant woman remained of the offspring of Lavi (Levi), in whom the prophethood still appeared. Her husband had been killed, so the Israelites kept her in a house so that Allah may give her a boy, who would be their Prophet. The woman also kept invoking Allah to grant her a boy. Allah heard her pleas and gave her a boy whom she called `Shamwil' meaning `Allah has heard my pleas.' Some people said that the boy's name was Sham`un (Simeon), which also has a similar meaning.
As that boy grew, Allah raised him to be a righteous person. When he reached the age of prophethood, Allah revealed to him and commanded him to call (his people) to Him and to His Tawhid (Oneness). Shamwil called the Children of Israel (to Allah) and they asked him to appoint a king over them so that they could fight their enemies under his command. The kingship had also ended among them. Their Prophet said to them, "What if Allah appoints a king over you, would you fulfill your vow to fight under his command'' They said, "Why should we not fight in Allah's way while we have been driven out of our homes and our children' But when fighting was ordered for them, they turned away, all except a few of them. And Allah is All-Aware of the wrongdoers". "And their Prophet said to them: "Verily! The sign of His kingdom is that there shall come to you At-Tabut, wherein is Sakinah (peace and reassurance) from your Lord and a remnant of that which Musa (Moses) and Harun (Aaron) left behind, carried by the angels. Verily, in this is a sign for you if you are indeed believers"
Ibn Jurayj stated that Ibn `Abbas said, "The angels came down while carrying the Tabut between the sky and the earth, until they placed it before Talut while the people were watching.'' As-Suddi said, "The Tabut was brought to Talut's house, so the people believed in the prophethood of Sham`un (Simeon) and obeyed Talut''.
Then it was followed by marching there armies and there was a trial from Allah swt --- then comes the prophethood of Dawud AS. You can read it in detail in the very second chapter and its verses are from 240s.--
Yes the main difference that arose was the covenant which Allah took from them in the Tawrah, that, He will send a great Prophet - meaning Muhammad - from among the offspring of Isma`il, who will be obeyed by all peoples.
They used to say, `O Allah! Send the Prophet that we read about - in the Tawrah - so that we can torment and kill the disbelievers alongside him.' When Allah sent Muhammad and they saw that he was not one of them, they rejected him and envied the Arabs, even though they knew that he was the Messenger of Allah. So , Allah said
"Then when there came to them that which they had recognized, they disbelieved in it. So let the curse of Allah be on the disbelievers".
Hope brother, you got an idea of Jews and there "connection" to Islam. May Allah swt help you to understand the truth and accept it. If its still unclear, you can ask us any of your doubts. InshaAllah, shall try to clear them
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Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: �All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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JihadX
Senior Member Joined: 20 June 2008 Status: Offline Points: 258 |
Posted: 23 June 2008 at 10:43am | |||
shukran. it helped me understand so much.
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�The knife that slaughtered the guards at Bagram and set us free is now on its way to other places,�
_ The Mujahid, The Eminent, Sheikh Abu Yahya Al Libi |
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Sign*Reader
Senior Member Joined: 02 November 2005 Status: Offline Points: 3352 |
Posted: 23 June 2008 at 11:20pm | |||
You are I reckon be a senior in HS and you have asked a $64000 question that not very many will like to investigate particularly in the US. The version that is generally known and taught is the Zionist produced. There are two types of Jews Sephardics (original descendent's of the Prophet Yakoob or Jacob who was son of Isaac and nephew of Ishmael -and two of his twelve sons-- 10 tribes were lost in the Diasporas and Ashkenazis the Europeans from Khazaris converted blood lines! It were the Sephardic Jews who had settled in Arabia and came to be discussed in Quran and gave some trouble to Muslims and Prophet Muhammad(saw). There are three sources for trouble between men -- money, women and or land. the Jews get into trouble cuz they are the money changers to the world. They abandoned the cause of Allah and hereafter and bartered for the money and material. They were enslaved by the Pharaohs and when they were freed by Moses but after many trial and tribulations they took over the path of pharaohs and now they are trying to enslave the world. Right now the western world is under their control through the central banking, stock and commodity trade exchanges, media, press, Law and politics worldwide gambling, Hollywood films, San Fernando Valley smut through Google marketing control and what have you. Th list is endless you can add prostitution, slave trade, weapons and drugs. It was this aspect that got them into trouble with Nazis. You have to give them one credit that Allah gave them great mind for sure for dawah work that they end up using for the wordly things instead! It is summer break I guess you might have time to read another view beside the Zionist view, so here the link you may like to go to: The French ConnectionI hope I haven't put you in a info overload mode!Edited by Sign*Reader - 24 June 2008 at 5:59pm |
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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.
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Sign*Reader
Senior Member Joined: 02 November 2005 Status: Offline Points: 3352 |
Posted: 24 June 2008 at 12:37pm | |||
JihadX:
I reckon you have studied some European history! Here is an article about the onset of so called Holocaust!
Edited by Sign*Reader - 24 June 2008 at 12:38pm |
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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.
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JihadX
Senior Member Joined: 20 June 2008 Status: Offline Points: 258 |
Posted: 24 June 2008 at 1:54pm | |||
shukran! i now understand more about Judaism.
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�The knife that slaughtered the guards at Bagram and set us free is now on its way to other places,�
_ The Mujahid, The Eminent, Sheikh Abu Yahya Al Libi |
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