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mariyah wrote: ASA Minuteman: As far as I know the JW's believe: *Jesus is the son of God but not God,..He is the Archangel Michael sent to the earth to do Gods work(correct me if I am wrong please Robin) *They believe the concept of the trinity is of pagan origin (which is a point we agree on) the worship is of the One true God only, and all holidays pretty much are not observed as they are "no part of this world" *The organization is run by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania... *you were formerly called Bible students, or Russellites (after the founder, Russell" *Only 144,000 select JW's will go to heaven to rule with Jesus, the rest who are worthy (You must be a baptized JW) will inherit a paradise earth. *All other so called Christians are part of the whore of Babylon called "christendom" and are condemmed to Gehenna as are the rest of us who do not join their faith. *The leaders of this brand of faith do not encourage higher education unless it is further study of the tenets of their faith. The end of the world is coming soon and they must "serve as a witness to all nations and then the end will come" Very simple, inclusive, but easy to figure out.

honeto wrote: Robin,   that's how you believe, this is how we do: 103:1 CONSIDER the flight of time!  103:2 Verily, man is bound to lose himself 103:3 unless he be of those  who attain to faith (in God and His messangers), and do good works, and enjoin upon one another the keeping to truth, and enjoin upon one another patience. Hasan

Edited by robin - 25 June 2008 at 12:49am

Bi ismillahi rahmani raheem

I agree with robin Isa/Jesus was a witness of Jehovah/Yahweh/God/Allah [arabic form] i dont see much wrong with the post from an islamic point of view at all. It plainly states it in the Quran that Isa will be a witness against all those who called him God and so will his followers be witnesses for him on the day of judgment that he fulfilled his responsibilities and never claimed such a thing.

The muslim Ummah will be witness against other nations, this is nothing new, Rasul allah [sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam] himself said something very similar to this John 17:6��I have made your name manifest to the men you gave me out of the world. They were yours, and you gave them to me, and they have observed your word"". and the angels bore witness that he too had fulfilled his trust and responsibility, later on Allah said in the Quran "today i have perfected your religion".

robin you misquoted Isaiah 43:12 and made it sound as if Jesus was saying he was God the entire verse reads..."I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God". I also think you are over extending the meaning of some of the passages in the bible as  Jehovah/Yahweh/God/Allah will not call to witness for him those people who have not lived the life he chose for them. This would be the equivalent of calling a serial killer to witness for God against other serial killers and to tell them what they did was wrong, there is no moral high ground here and it would be clear hypocrisy.

Mariyah there is no need to be rude to Robin and suggest that she leaves the forum or they are not welcome here it isnt your place to say who is or isn't allowed to come to a public forum, if you can not entertain multiple conflicting ideas in your mind then quietly leave the discussion there is no shame in that.


Edited by rami - 25 June 2008 at 7:52pm