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Saladin
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Islam did not invent polygamy. Islam only regulated an already existing practice of every nation and culture. Neither does Islam make a muslim polygamous. There are many more muslim men strictly faithful to their only wives than people who are supposedly monogamous but are just polygamous without the label. Man's polygamous nature is a fact and polygamy as in Islam is only the alternative to an otherwise adulterous society with its ills. |
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minuteman
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Ron, that is no reply, i.e. might and probably... If it is the question of polygamy then it has been in practice for ages. We read that king david had a few wives. King Soloman had 300 wives and 1000 concubines. That is all according to the bible, nothing is there about that in the Quran.
Even prophet Jacob had two wives. So please tell us which way you are heading. Are you questioning the very old senior great persons?? That they were wrong and they were at fault and you are a better thinker?? I do not see that you can say anything against the system of multi marriage of Islam in the case of need/ necessity.
I have read the bible Isaiah ch.4 verses 1-3 in which the prophet Isaiah had predicted about polygamy as follows:
Isaiah 4
1 In that day seven women The Branch of the Lord2 In that day the Branch of the LORD will be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the land will be the pride and glory of the survivors in Israel. 3 Those who are left in Zion, who remain in Jerusalem, will be called holy, all who are recorded among the living in Jerusalem.(Please note that Jerusalem and Zion are only symbolic. It is not necessary that it be the two cities/places)
That was a clear indication of the time of the prophet Muhammad when there will be wars against the infidels (enemies of Peace) and many men pious men will lay their lives in the cause of truth. There will become serious shortage of young men and some ladies will become widows.
The prophet will order men to marry more than one woman so as to uproot any dismay or corruption in the society. Please read the frst line of the chapter above. Edited by minuteman - 04 June 2008 at 8:14pm |
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Ron Webb
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I agree, it might work very well for some individuals. I just don't think that on the whole it is good for society, especially if it is slanted in one direction only (i.e., multiple wives but not multiple husbands). I don't think it should be forbidden, but it probably should be discouraged.
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Hayfa
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It is interesting what you wrote. There are tribes, I know in Nepal where the women marry two brothers.. ya.. it happens..
Many women don't like to share. .and really quite a number don't care that much.. and it is not about religion but it is culture and society. For some it is just a better arrangement.
Mystical, you do sound very upset by the idea of polygyny.. it realyl does work for some people, and some women are quite happy in it.. they often are better friends with co-wives then husband.. lol
Edited by Hayfa - 05 June 2008 at 9:16am |
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Ron Webb
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Would the same apply in reverse? For instance, India and China, through selective abortion, are both creating lopsided societies with a severe shortage of women. Do you think women should be allowed to have multiple husbands in such a circumstance? Would the men be as willing to share their woman, "giving hope to those who otherwise would have none"? |
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Hamzah
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[QUOTE=Ron Webb] As I said, their passion is redirected in other, more sinister ways.� Need I remind you that fifteen of the nineteen 9/11 terrorists were Saudi?� Are you aware that most of the suicide bombers in Iraq are Saudi?
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Off the subject, do you know Ron that 5 of the so called 15 Saudi hijackers turned out to be living, and funnily enough the guy who the US claim to have found his passport (they should use the same material they use in our passports for everything) in the debris of the wreckage turned up somewhere in Saudi too, 9/11 was an inside job, i would advise you to look up 9/11 just a coincidence on youtube, it's a 19 part series, please watch them all and give me your fair and honest feedback. I would welcome you to visit Saudi Arabia and i will be your host for your entire stay (i'm not joking), and at the end of it i want you to tell me if you still think Saudi's are sinister. |
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"Whosoever fears Allah, he will appoint for him a way out, and provide for him from where he does not expect"
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honeto
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Mystical I will have to realistically disgree with that. I agree that a woman in normal circumtances will not agree to share her husband, but a true believer woman probably won't be as blunt if a unusual situation arises when its not a matter of man's benefit but purely for the benefit of the woman and the society. That unusual situation can be after a war and loss of a lot of men, leaving childless widows or those woman with children who are still young. Then it may be not about sharing the man but about helping and giving hope to those who otherwise would have none.
Right in our lifetime, right here on this earth in many regional crises such a situation has arised where big number of men are lost to conflicts.
Hasan Edited by honeto - 03 June 2008 at 3:42pm |
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Mystical
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Polygamy is for the man's pleasure not for the betterment of women. It is a grave misconception in Islam if Muslim men believe that woman like to share their man (husband) with other women. We LOATHE this just as much as a man loathes to share his woman (wife) I believe the only reason a Muslim woman accepts this is because they must believe this is the from Allah/God but trust me give the woman a choice and she will yell from every roof top AGAINST polygamy. Polygamy stems from man's desire to dominate and procreate with as many as posible the "deficient in intelligence" other half of humanity . It is legalised (in the religious sense) adultery! That's my opinion as a woman but admittedly if I was a man I would probably justify it too.
God created ONE man and ONE woman, Adam and Eve, not Adam and Eve, Rebekka, Rachael and Hannah!
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