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Shasta'sAunt
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Jesus doesn't have a "father". Allah said "BE" and Jesus was.
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Shasta'sAunt
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3:59 The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was. (Al-Imran)
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Sign*Reader
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Ron:
Who was Dolly the sheep's father? Edited by Sign*Reader - 13 April 2008 at 8:03pm |
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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.
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Ron Webb
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Not separate entities. The same entity, different manifestations. If my analogy of family relationships was unclear, try thinking egg, larva, chrysalis, butterfly.
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Ron Webb
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Genetically, Dolly had the same mother and father as the sheep from which she was cloned. But Jesus could not have been a clone of Mary because they were different sexes. Jesus must have got at least some of his DNA (e.g., his Y chromosome) from someone else, some man.
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jusaskin
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Serv, what you were expecting from inter-faith dialogue? As I stated earlier, I was interested in the everyday conversations between Muslims, and especially between Muslims and Christians, in a non-professional setting. One can always pick up the various Scriptures, books written about Islam and Christianity, or find any number of "learned" opinions on the subject, but I wanted to talk/listen to "real" Muslims. The idea was to get another point of view (or not). We (grandson and I) have heard enough for now. Perhaps there may be questions later, but for now it's time to mull over what we have obtained. But I think it's best said by Peter (I'll reference Peter since many Muslims disdain Paul) as he recalls an earlier revelation concerning Jesus (1 Peter, Chapter 2): "... it is contained in Scripture, behold, I lay in Zion a chief cornerstone, elect, precious; and he that believes on him shall not be put to shame. For you therefore that believe is the preciousness, but for those who disbelieve, the stone which the builders rejected, the same was made the head of the corner, and a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense, for they stumble at the word, being disobedient, where unto also they were appointed." |
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Sign*Reader
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If Allah who could create Adam from clay, and Eve from Adam why would have problems making Jesus out of Mary?
Christian have some faith to talk about! Why would Allah's word not take care of the chromosome/DNA issue? Either you have the faith in the power of Allah's creation or your Roman / Greek mythological mentality towers above it! Which is it? Can't have it both ways! Do you doubt the His dominion of creation? Edited by Sign*Reader - 13 April 2008 at 9:45pm |
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Nausheen
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Auzubillahi Minash Shaitan ir Rajeem,
Bismillah ir Rahman ir Rahim
>For either a Christian or a Muslim to accept the other's understanding of one God requires them to deny their own faith.<
This is the most striking point I found in your above post. Absolutely. Accounts of some reverts from cristianity who I have read had a reason to disbelieve in their own faith.
Whenever we talk about faith, we should allow logic to take rest, and illumination of heart to preside over ... only then it is called belief or faith! What is percieved by mind is not always that which is necessarily settled in the heart ...
hope some of it makes sense.
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<font color=purple>Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa
Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.[/COLOR] |
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