Does everyone think they are a scholar?

As Salam Alukum

 

Its funny how some people feel this way by hadiths, you must realise that the hadiths came down the same medium, that is oral tradition backed by a chain of narrators, so if you are rejecting hadith why not reject the Qur`an?

Secondly hadiths were recorded Manuscripts of Abu Hurairaih's collection of ahadith exist in Samarkand, as do the earliest copies of the Quran. A lot of other Sahaba's hadith works are available in manuscripts. One only has to have the will to seek them out. If you reject hadith because you think they might have been invented, think the same for the Quran. How would you know that the Quran we have today is the same as the Quran of 1400 years ago?

One of the main problems is ordinarly layman like you and I open by Sahih Bukhari or other books of hadith and read it and formulate an opinion on it without understanding why this hadith was uttered, what were the circumstances? one has to remember these hadiths are orginally in Arabic you would get a better understanding if you read the Sharh (commentary on Bukhari's hadiths) from Ibn Hajar Asqalani's Fath Al-Bari.

Peace Jenni. have you ever concidered to throw the source of all the comotion out the window? Im talking about hadith.

To me it was a simple, i must admit,  i realised that the Quran simply made a lot more sense in every aspect. Either the hadith badly parroted the Quran, or it gave advice that was absolutely useless (like covering water, like telling us how Mohammad(pbuh) urinated etc), and then theres all the occult esotheric knowledge to be found in it. all the copycating from the Bible etc..

Many confronted me with it. Well then we dont know how to pray?
Not only is that completely irrelevant, but its not true either. Were told to pray, so pray! Similarly Moses(pbuh) people where told to find a cow. That was all there is to it, but they insisted to annoy him with questions about it. what color does it have e.i...who cares? al they where told was to get a cow. how hard can it be!
But there is altso several verses that shows what should be uttered as part of it, and that prostraton is part of it. This is further detailed in several of all the prophets(pbut) examples (i can make a new thread on this subject alone if you like).

All the frustration (nearly) that you seem to utter. stems from teachings that makes no sense. why? because they make no sense thats why, and all the soothtalk in the world is not going to change that.

This represents my own interpretation of Quran, and my own standpoint. not the truth. that is reserved for Allah alone, and Allah knows best. may he guide us all to truth

Peace
Noah

 

If I may please add�..

 

 

I was wrong in the way I approached (& hence the things I said to) Ummziba in this conversation, so here�s an official - I am sorry Ummziba. Words can be a bit shallow so, I�ll just get on with improving. Insha Allah

 

 

midway wrote:   Tut-tut�.. I have read all your posts in this thread, & would say exactly the same thing if I was able to go back in time�.. �I would also argue about why all the prophets were men (their knack for in-depth analysis had nothing to do with it), but that is a whole other topic!� And you know that for a fact? Women!!!!!!!

What a pity - yet another misogynist.  And one of such little understanding.  Save your breath.  I won't be bothered replying to you anymore.  I'll leave you to the men you love so much better.

Peace, ummziba.