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I probably know but have forgotten, Modern Babylon, Is that suppose to be Iraq/Iran or some other place.
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The day that anybody proclaims that any good is about to happen, that will be a miracle!!!!!! IT's ALL very doomsdayie, not one account have I come across that is positive
Now that's entertainment. From a prediction from someone I came across believes we are in the final 3 and half year, so what is mentioned should be happening now, but there is no one world gov't or religion or currency and it won't happen either. This person also believes that by the end of it 6 billion people will have persihed, well I don't see that happening not unless a big asteriod hits the planets.
I will continue with the 7 thunders & 7 seals shortly, need to regather my thoughts and notes. |
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It's all here: Gog and Magog will come to power at the end of the 7000 yrs, not at the beginning of the year 6000! The fall of MODERN DAY Rev.19:19-21 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. Revelation 18 1And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. 2And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. 7How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. 8Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her. 21And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. After the fall of Modern Day Babylon, then 1000 yrs. after then Gog and Magog will rise. It�s all in Revelation 20: 1And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. 4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. truthnowcome |
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People seem to pick the beginning, but there is a period of time before the 7000th year ends
Someone else turns up, any ideas who ? Edited by Angel - 14 April 2008 at 2:09am |
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All Praises are for Allah (S) I think I�ve finish with bush boy! It�s time to expose these televangelists. Just read what this writer has to say about televangelist Pastor John Hagee: Pastor Strange love Texan John Hagee has a huge following, the ear of the White House, and a theory that an invasion of Hagee calls pastors "the spiritual generals of Link: Unleavened Bread Ministries, Christian Broadcasting, America's Last Days Clip: Seated beside Lapin in the ornately gilded Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) studio was Pastor John Hagee, the author of an incendiary new book purporting to show that the Bible predicts a military confrontation with Hagee, who serves as head pastor of the 18,000-member Thanks to the viral marketing made possible by the hundreds of evangelical leaders who have signed on to his new organization, his warmongering has rippled through mega-churches across Hagee calls pastors "the spiritual generals of But Hagee the businessman -- along with friends like Hinn, Meyer, Parsley, and other TBN televangelists, including the network's top executives, Paul and Jan Crouch -- has come under fire for excessive compensation derived from his nonprofit ministries. According to his organization's tax returns, Hagee has earned more than $1 million annually since 1999 in salary and deferred compensation from his nonprofit Global Evangelism Television and For Hagee's new project, his influence in While pundits and politicians in When addressing audiences receptive to Scriptural prophecy, however, Hagee welcomes the coming confrontation. He argues that a strike against The rhetoric in Hagee's book, and his discussion of it in Christian media outlets, is absolutist. He speaks not only of good against evil, believer against nonbeliever, Judeo-Christian civilization against Islamic civilization, but of an American-Israeli alliance against the rest of the world. He plays on conservative disdain for anything European, while promoting the Bush unilateralist mentality that has had catastrophic results in In Hagee's telling, But Hagee doesn't stop there. He adds that Ezekiel predicts fire upon those who "live in security in the coastlands." From this sentence he concludes that there will be judgment upon all who stood by while the Russian-led force invaded Israel, and issues a stark warning to the United States to intervene: "Could it be that America, who refuses to defend Israel from the Russian invasion, will experience nuclear warfare on our east and west coasts?" He says yes, citing Genesis 12:3, in which God said to To fill the power vacuum left by God's decimation of the Russian army, the Antichrist -- identified by Hagee as the head of the European Union -- will rule "a one-world government, a one-world currency and a one-world religion" for three and a half years. (He adds that "one need only be a casual observer of current events to see that all three of these things are coming into reality.") The "demonic world leader" will then be confronted by a false prophet, identified by Hagee as Now that's entertainment. Sarah Posner, author of God's Profits: Faith, Fraud, and the Republican Crusade for Values Voters, has covered the religious right for the Prospect, The Nation, The Washington Spectator, AlterNet, and other publications. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ As the writer correctly described his message as �entertainment�, I would just like to address they prophesy that he mentioned in the book of Ezekiel 38 and 39; It�s all has to do with Gog and Magog. �He argues that a strike against Iran will cause Arab nations to unite under Russia's leadership, as outlined in chapters 38 and 39 of the Book of Ezekiel, leading to an �inferno [that] will explode across the Middle East, plunging the world toward Armageddon.�" Gog and Magog will come to power at the end of the 7000 yrs, not at the beginning of the year 6000! tnc |
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Christians were looking at the end of the year 2000 for the coming of the Massiah but no one came to them. In the year 2001 september 11 some one else turns up.
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I'm a bit confused with the bold bit p.s: I'll get back to the other issue on saturday. Edited by Angel |
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This is an old article of mine which I have post here some time back. It is only my opinion and it has nothing to do with the Scholar of Islam�.
OVER IT ARE NINETEEN It is mentioned in Qur�an: And We have fixed their number (19) only as a trial for the Disbelievers. (N.Q.74:30) Leave Me alone (to deal) with whom I created lonely (without any wealth or children, etc., A l-Walid bin Al-Mughriah Al-Makhzumi). (N.Q.74:11) Yusuf Ali (early) commentary 5790:- The commentator understood the reference to be to Walid ibin Al-Mughriah, who was a wealthy Subarite, Pagan to the core, and an inveterate enemy to the Holly Prophet (pbuh). He and Abu Jall did all they could, from the beginning of the preaching of Islam, to abuse and persecute the Preacher, to run down his doctrine, and to injure those who believe in it. But the meaning for us is much wider. The Pagans as a hold was trying to destroy Islam and the People of the Book. (See Q.30:2-4) Allah has described them: To whom I granted resources in abundance, and sons to be by his side! - To whom I made (Life) smooth and comfortable! Yet is he greedy- That I should add (yet more) - By no means! For to Our Signs he has been refractory! Soon will I visit him with a mount of calamities! For he thought and he plotted- And woe to him! How he plotted! - Yea, Woe to him; how he plotted! - Then he looked round; then he frowned and he scowled; then said he: �This is nothing but magic, derived from of old;� Soon will I cast him into Hell-Fire! And what will explain to thee what Hell-Fire is? (Q.74:12-27) Allah said: �what will explain to thee what Hell-Fire is?� and He give the answer �Soon will I visit him with a mount of calamities.� (V.17), and He place two woe upon them: the first is fall of the Pagans Empire (See Q.30:2-4) and the second is the rise and fall of the Pagans Empire, only this time the will be carrying the Scriptures of the People of the Book (Modern Day Pagan Empire). �We have fixed their number (19) only as a trial for the disbelievers- in order that the People of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) may arrive at certainty� (N.Q.74:31) Naught doth it permit to endure, and naught doth it leave alone! - darkening and changing the colour of man! (Q.74�28-29) Yusuf Ali com. 5792: �the brightness of his very manhood is darkened and extinguished by sin. THE FALL OF MODERN DAY PAGAN EMPIRE For he thought and plotted�Yea, woe to him how he plotted. (V.18-20) Over it are nineteen (angels as guardians and keepers of Hell). (Q.74:30) And We have set none but angels as guardians of the Fire. And We have fixed their number (19) only as a trials for the disbelievers, in order that the People of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) may arrive at certainty [That this Qur�an is the truth as it agrees with their Books regarding the number (19) which is written in the Taurat (Torah) and Injil (Gospel)] � (N.Q.74:30) INJIL Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honor to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife (the church) hath made herself ready. (Rev. 19:7) And to her (the church) was granted that she (the church) should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of the saint. (V.8) And he said unto me, Write, Bless are THEY which are called unto the marriage SUPPER of the Lamb. And he said unto me, These are the true saying of God. (V.9) And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the FOWLS that flies in the midst of heaven come and gather yourself together unto the SUPPER of the Great God; that you may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. (Rev.1917-18) We have the saint and the fowls that fly in midst (Air) of heaven, they are called unto the marriage SUPPER to eat of those people. Which fowls or bird that flies in midst (Air) heaven can eat those people, feather bird or iron bird? He [Jesus (pbuh)] cometh with cloud; and every eye shall see him (from the media). (Rev.1:7) He will strike from the cloud, midst air (heaven) with the army which is in heaven. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses [fowls that fly in midst heaven (iron bird)], clothed in fine linen, white and clean. (Rev.19:14) Does it ring a bell? Nineteen (19) in the Scripture, nineteen (19) angels and nineteen (19) terrorist coming from the cloud. But verily over you (are appointed angels) to protect you. (Q.82:10) For him (each person), there are angles in succession, before him and behind him. The guard him by command of Allah� (Q.13:11) And We have fixed there number (19) only as a trial for the Disbelievers, in order that the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christian) may arrive at certainty [That this Qur�an is the truth as it agree with their Book regarding the number (19) which is written in the Taurat (Torah) and the Injil (Gospel)] and that the believers may increase in Faith (as the Qur�an is the truth), and no doubt may be left for the people of the Scripture and the believers, and that those in whose heart is a disease (of hypocrisy) and the disbelievers may say: �What Allah intend by this (curious) example?� Thus Allah leads astray whom He wills and guide whom He wills. And none can know the host of your Lord but He. And this (Hell) is nothing else than a (warning) reminder to mankind. (N.Q.74:31) Verily, it is but one of the greatest (signs). A warning to mankind � To any of you that choose to go forward (by working righteous deed), or to remain behind (by committing sins). Q.74:35-37 No misfortune can happen on earth or in your own soul but is in a book before We bring It into Existence. Verily, that is easy for Allah. (Q.57:22) And I saw heaven open, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called faithful true. And in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his heave were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. (Rev.19:11-12) He will be support by many kings and only he knew how to destroy the BEAST. And the he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. (V.13) He will wage war for the Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. (V.14) These are the nineteen angels that guided the believers. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smith the nation: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. (V.15) He shall used war of words to motivate the believers and treadeth the Government that used pubs, and disco to promote alcohol, prostitution and all evil �THE MOTHER OF HERLOTS�. See explanation of Rev.17 and 13 When comes the help of Allah, and victory, and thou does see the people enter Allah�s religion in crowds, celebrate thy praises of thy Lord, and pray for His forgiveness: For He is oft-returning (in grace and mercy). (Q.110:1-3) �Abd Allah ibn Mas�ud said: �The Prophet (pbuh) said, �Islam begin as something strange, and it will revert to being strange as it was in The Beginning, so good tidings for the strangers.� Someone ask, �Who are the strangers?� He said, �The ones who break away from their people (literally, �tribes�) for the sake of Islam.�� This Hadith was narrated by Ibn Majah on the authority of Anas and Abu Hurayrah. [Muslim, Kitab al-Iman, 1/90; Ibn Majah, Kitab al-Fitan(hadith 3988), 2/1320.]
Does the word �The Beginners� ring a bell? Coincident! When the Crusaders strike Muhamed (pbuh) said: �My Ummah will split into seventy-three sect, all of them in the fire except one.� It was said, �Who are they O messenger of Allah?� He said, �That which I and my Companions are upon.� [Saheeh: Abu Daawood (2/503-504) and Al-Hakim (1/128); Marfoo form: Ahmad from Anas and Ibn Majah (2/1322); And others from Abu Hurairah� radiallaahu anhu � from the Prophet(pbuh).] And the woman (false church)�is that These (ten kings) have one mind (believe) and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall over come them: for he is Lord of Lord, and king of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen and faithful. (Rev.17:13-14) Lord of Lords is used metaphorically to indicate power. For example, Paul referred to the devil a �god� in 2nd Corinthians 4:4 �in their case the �god� of this world had blind the minds of the unbelievers�� And Lord said unto Moses, see I made thee a �god� to Pharaoh; and Aaron thy brother shall be thy Prophet. (Exodus 7:1) The Lamb would not win the war, he shall overcome them. For God hath put in their heart to fulfill his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. (Rev.17:17). The Dajjal (Anti Christ: the false teaching of Christ, false Church) has taken your place among your off spring (Iraq) so they will throw whatever is in their hand and go forward, sending TEN HORSEMEN as a scouting party. The Prophet (pubh) said: �I know their names, and the names of their father and the colour of their horses. They will be the BEST horsemen on the FACE of the EARTH on that day.� (Ahmad, Musnad, 1/384, 38; Muslim, Kitab al Fitan, 8/177,178) And the ten horns (ten kings from the east) which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore (false church that great city), and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire, (Rev.17:16) Rev.19:19-21 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. Daniel 2:44 and in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a KINGDOM, WHICH SHALL NEVER DESTROY: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but BREAK IN PIECES and CONSUME ALL THESE KINGDOM, AND IT SHALL STAND FOR EVER. Isaiah 29: 12-14 (WHEN THE UNLETTRED PROPHET COMES)�for the WISDOM OF THE WISE MAN SHALL PERISH� Daniel 7:28 HITHERTO IS THE END OF THE MATTER� http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22026744/ Br. Zainool Husain |
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