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Iftikhar
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Terrorist V Terrorism
According to British writer and lecturer, Karen Armstrong, the west is deeply Islamophobic and the Islamophobia is the result of a long process of prejudice, dating back to the Crusades. The recent events have strengthened the prejudiced belief that �Islam is the religion of the sword�. Islamophobia can manifest itself directly in verbal or physical attacks on Muslims but also indirectly in negative images of Muslims presented by the media. Islamophobia was worsened by anti-Islamic policies, publications and activities in Europe and the Masajid and Muslim organizations are regarded as training centers for terrorists. Thousands of innocent Muslim youths are being searched in streets and hundreds of them are behind the bar with out any trial. No religion advocates terrorism. However, West has directed its anger against Islam and Muslims by inventing Islamic Terrorism. It is the western extremism which is portraying Islam as an evil. It is the extremism in There is an undeclared World War III going on in the name of War on Terrorism. The fact of the matter is that Islam is all peace and hence this war is war of terrorism and not against terrorism. Deception and lies are frequently part of the wars and with powerful One by one all Muslim Organizations are going to be classified as �Terrorists�. BBC Newsnight has already branded world Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY) as terrorist. According to TES, dated 1st Feb2002, Muslim teacher�s website has been condemned for links to militant Islamic groups. It is absurd to brand Muslim teachers website as a terrorist. Its aim is to provide guidance, share experience and discuss every day issues and problems facing Muslim teachers. It is also going to help British teachers to learn to respect and understand Islamic culture and most misunderstood British Muslim community. Racism in schools is alive and well was recognized by the Focus Institute on Rights. Staff in many schools is unwittingly racist but in my view, all British teachers are chicken racist. Racism is rife in National Curriculum. There is no mention of Muslim contribution in the world. Schools reinforce the racism that has been promulgated for centuries. The curriculum is supposed to encourage respect for different nationals, religious and ethnic identities and encourage pupils to challenge injustice. A report on teachers from the minority communities found that racism coupled with a lack of support and career progression is holding some back. Even teacher trainees were encountering racism at placement schools. They would like to discuss their worries more, but only if the senior management team was visibly open and supportive. The management at schools was very defensive about any mention of racism, so the issue could not be discussed in any meaningful way. If a teacher in English school calls a teddy bear Jesus Christ, there would be seriously hostile comments in much of the media. While in All the Masajid and Muslim organizations are there for humanitarian, educational and youth works. None of them promotes acts of terrorism or support so called Islamic Terrorism. They are busy in those aspects of education, which are neglected by state schools. They satisfy the needs and demands of the Muslim children and teenagers, which were denied by state schools and LEAs. Without their support and guidance the young generation of Muslim would have lost its Islamic Identity crucial for mental, emotional and personality development. Their contribution will be more effective if all Muslim pupils attend Muslim schools with Muslim teachers. It will help to develop positive co-relation between school and home resulting in raising the standard of education of future Muslim generations. For this purpose, I have a proposition that those state schools where Muslim pupils are in majority may be designated as Muslim Community Schools, managed and controlled by Muslim Educational Trusts and Charities. They are in a better position to educate Muslim children according to their needs and demands. A study by the National Foundation for Educational Research confirmed that all faith schools had better results than their secular counterparts. Conservative spokesman on education has praised schools affiliated to religious groups, saying Muslim schools deserved �support� not suspicion. Iftikhar Ahmad |
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martha
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Salaams brother, You have raised many issues, and I feel I must reply. Britain has many schools that teaches Islam as part of its religious curriculam. You are wrong to suggest that all British teachers are 'chicken racist' I have yet to see it personally. There are also many muslim schools in the UK. All schools that I know about are eager to teach the children about ramadan and Eid. Many British schools are opting out of their own Christian cultural celebrations so as not to offend non-Christians, including muslims. The Nativity play and Easter seldom take place these days. What more do you want? There are more muslim politicians in government than ever before. If we are racist then we would not allow them to hold these government positions. If we were racist we would not give council homes to the poorer muslims that need the help, and hand out benefits paid for by our taxes. If the British fail to understand the teachings of Islam then many of them have good cause. No one can understand the idiotic antics of the suicide tube bombers. Many muslim women felt they couldnt wear the hijab after this incident and not because of British ideas.All because of the silly young muslim men, most of whom had been born here. Yes, there are some British people who take the law into their own hands. Can you blame them? Some innocent muslims also died that day in July on the underground. Dont you think that their families also question why this took place? Brother, we live in the UK. It is our choice. You cannot possibly expect to reap all the advantages of the western world if you are not prepared to live amongst the British community. I am not suggesting you live anything other than the laws of Islam that clearly state you obey the rules of the country you live. The UK will not come under Shariah law, certainly not in our lifetime.There are many muslim communities in the larger cities, that are no longer recognisable as British. I lived in a predominatly asian area of South London. Most non-Londoners would have a culture shock if they visited there. I jokingly named this area 'Little Pakistan'. Most asians do not mix with the British. This is a commonly known fact. Comments like the ones you have posted, will only achieve further distance between the cultures. The British are doing there bit to make it a civilised society. What are you doing brother? I hope you mix with the British and understand why we are the tolerant people we are, instead of you thinking that one day you will turn the UK into something completely different. This will never happen. We already do so much for you and the many million other non-British residents. You would achieve far more if you held hands with us to promote the peace that our religion Islam is all about. And please dont call me racist. My husband is from Pakistan, so I understand the situation from all angles. If you dont like it here, and the values the British have, then you could always emmigrate.
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Iftikhar
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SAlaam I am interested in the education of Muslim children. Majority of them leave schools with low grades because monolingual teachers are not capable of teaching English to bilingual Children. They need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models. They need to be well versed in Standard English to follow the National Curriclulum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. At the same time they need to be well versed in Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. People have a right to live where they choose their own identity.If any native Brit does not like that then he/she the one that go somewhere else.Just because you born here does not give you the right to lay claim to anything and tell others how to live.Brits never live according to other customes and tradition when they go and live in another country. A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny gloabl village. He/she does not want to become notoriously monolingual Brit. Majority of British Muslims are from Pakistan which is only seven hours away from London.
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Whisper
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The UK will not come under Shariah law, certainly not in our lifetime. Brother Iftikhar, I have read and re-read your article a good few times. Would you, please, help me, perhaps, I have missed something you may have penned down in some invisible ink or onion juice! Did you anywhere in your article or even in your wildest dream ever advocate Shariah Law for the UK? Or, has any other scholar of any salt ever done that in your wake? |
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martha
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Brother, In your original posting you mentioned nothing about bilingual teachers for muslim children. Children learn languages very easily. Surely you know this. Before a parent sends the child to school for the first time they have the right to teach their children english. This can be done interactivily with English friends at play with the muslim child. Or does mixing with the English child not appeal to you at all? The parent can also teach English at home if they wish, and should be encouraged for the sake of the child. Teachers are not fully responsible for any childs education whatever their nationality. Some of it lies with the parent. Many English parents try to teach thier children to read some things before they start school.If you follow the news, you will already know there is a plan to introduce Urdu into the British curriculam. I expect in time there will be Urdu speaking English teachers who can fulfill the needs. But these things do not happen overnight. Like I already stated, there are already many muslim schools in the larger cities. These surely teach Arabic, Urdu and other languages. Of course it is the main responsability of the parent to teach the child its cultural roots and literature. British parents also have the same duty to teach this to their children in the home. Yes of course you have the right to live where you choose, as does any person. But you have no claim to expect the British to change their ways, just because you dont like it. This will always be Britain. Your title Terrorist v Terrorist is totally inappropriate. The British people are for the majority peaceful. It is comments like yours that instill concern into the British mind, and broadens the gap. You have failed to acknowledge the majority of my comments. Do you not agree that there are many muslim members of Parliament? Do we not give benefits to muslims along with council homes? Where is your answer about the tube bombings? It is obvious that you have little understanding of the British way of life. You refuse to intergrate with the British society. It can be done quite easily, and still give you the freedom to live good muslim principles. Or are you scared that your children will pick up bad habits as they grow? It is your duty to guide them. British parents also must and most do, guide their children to have good morals. Dont reply to me that British youngsters dont behave properly in the community. In London for example huge numbers of asian muslim youths frequently wait on corners for their supply of drugs or to beat someone up! This is not the fault of the British, but the fault of the parent who has not guided the child whilst young, and has kept them from intergrating into society. When the child is old enough it rebels against the parent. I have seen loads of teenage muslim girls in hijab going into pubs and smoking and having boyfriends. I have seen girls wearing hijab getting on the underground tube removing the hijab and applying thick makeup. This is not the fault of the British but the parent who has kept the child wrapped up in cotton wool during their tender years. The list is endless. And as for you suggesting the British leave their homeland. Get real! |
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Iftikhar
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Salaam London School of Islamics is an educational Trust. It's aim is to make British public, institutions and media aware of the needs and demands of the Muslim community in the field of education and possible solutions. Please visit www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk for more information on this crucial and complicated issue.
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Whisper
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If you dont like it here, and the values the British have, then you could always emmigrate. Brother, please, have heart, no need to get worried at all. If she bounces you out of her country, there's a place for you here in sunny Spain, with absolutely beautiful spirited people. Just one thought though, if it's so much her country, how come she fails to stop the bloodshed, in Afghanistan and Iraq, that keeps breeding all those suicide bombers that she keeps on about? |
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martha
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Whisper, You already know that the British public did not want Blair to invade Iraq or Afghanistan, and it's not our fault that the fanatical muslim works underground to breed the suicide bomber. Dont lay that one at our feet. And I have no intention of 'bouncing' our brother out of the UK. Both of you still are not giving satisfactory replies to my statements. Britain goes the extra mile to ensure all cultures and all faiths have equal opportunities. But there will be a divide when some fail to see the full picture. And Whisper, you know there are many muslims here who advocate Shariah law. I was trying to establish if our brother Iftikhar is one of them.
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