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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote midway Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 June 2005 at 10:36am

 

Assalaamu alaikum

 

 

 

Errrmmmmm,

 

Knowledge01, I know what the Kursi is� and I can illustrate it via both spiritual & scientific techniques�..

 

This is the reason why I have approached (international embassies &) the good Dr�s, as I am told they posses greater spiritual perception than I�..

 

I await a reply!

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote midway Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 June 2005 at 10:24am

 

Assalaamu alaikum

 

 

 

Some believe that the secrets and meaning of existence can be found via mathematics. If that were the case the phenomena we call �computers� (ie artificial intelligence) could be perceived to be � God!

 

For computers do not die (where as human beings do), also of significance is that if the soul (conscience & consciousness) could be reduced to mere numbers, artificial intelligence would be the wisest of entities (here on earth), as computer programmes & sheer numerical capacity, allow (those computers) a greater degree of numerical wizardry (compared to human intellect).

 

 

I raise the above point in order to try and help clarify why (I perceive) the phenomena called �intellect� to be merely a man-made (& controlled) product that induces haughtiness.

 

 

Here in the UK, the vast majority of subjects one can study at university (college in the USA) are intellectual in content. When a person partakes in such courses, they are not only strengthening the position of those whom created the subjects, but they are also supporting them by accepting their goals, and hence inadvertently helping them, by working toward fulfilling those very same goals!

 

Higher education hence offers those whom are in (worldly) control, the opportunity to not only review the knowledge students offer them via essays & exams (& hence gain firsthand access to that knowledge, free of cost, & in the fields they seek to master), but the courses also serve to condition those whom partake in them, in part, by means of the intense cramming of (intellectual) knowledge one is required to do, if one is to pass exams.

 

 

What astonishes me is that many Muslim�s are duped by this process, and willingly pay � to be �brainwashed�, and give those corrupt forces their time & knowledge, in fields that are un-Islamic!

 

And why do they do this?

 

 

Simple, the shaitan�s offer them a trade � work for & support us, and we will grant you with a substantial wage, and hence anything (worldly) you desire!

 

 

I tried to illustrate in my last post (as nadir) within the �expansion of the universe� thread, that true knowledge is not obtained via the intellect, rather it can be found as a result of spiritual perception/penetration (as was the case with all the Prophets {AS}), hence why I sought to discuss issues with someone who had gained spiritual perception (& not intellectual).

 

I sincerely hope that those whom have (already) acquired intellectual knowledge may use it to enhance Islam, and not to support un-Islamic goals. Insha Allah

 

 

 

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Originally posted by midway midway wrote:

 

Greetings

OK�..

�..now I�ve freed myself from the constraints of been bullied (via the prejudices held against me & consequent discrimination), by both Muslim�s & non-Muslim�s alike, I would like to reaffirm my statement�..

I have scientifically perceived the �Kursi�

The �Kursi� is the Holy Grail of science, & Ayat-Ul-Kursi is the most important verse in the Qur�an. Hence I suggest you go & contemplate why I would have been allowed to discover such knowledge!

To all those people who have ignored me (& treated me as if I were worthless), if I know nothing & you know better, then please bring your proof! Show me the Kursi!

 

Were you wondering what the Kursi is?  I'm not sure what you are talking about. 

In the commentary section of the Noble Quran by Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan and Dr. Muhammad Al Hilali, it is explained clearly that contrary to popular believe and understanding, the "kursi" is not the whole Throne of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala), it is only the foot stool that sits directly in front of the Throne or chair.  The Throne itself is called the "Arsh".  This very important statement needs to be more broadly understood by Muslims who have a misunderstanding of this subject.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Nausheen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 June 2005 at 9:05pm

...And your statement is your proof?

So we shld provide evidence .... to what? ... that you have NOT

Perceived the kursi ... yes someone shld or this is a straight Q.E.D.!

 

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Greetings

 

 

OK�..

 

�..now I�ve freed myself from the constraints of been bullied (via the prejudices held against me & consequent discrimination), by both Muslim�s & non-Muslim�s alike, I would like to reaffirm my statement�..

 

 

I have scientifically perceived the �Kursi�

 

 

The �Kursi� is the Holy Grail of science, & Ayat-Ul-Kursi is the most important verse in the Qur�an. Hence I suggest you go & contemplate why I would have been allowed to discover such knowledge!

 

To all those people who have ignored me (& treated me as if I were worthless), if I know nothing & you know better, then please bring your proof! Show me the Kursi!

 

 

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