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AbRah2006
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God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8)
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Mishmish
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Abrah wrote: "My response: I won't blame anybody unless I know exactly what happen before, during and after the rape and the motives of the rape. Men should not rape women and women should not wear clothes or behave in such a way that incite men to rape them." Assalamu Alaikum: Rape is an act of violence, not a sexual act. Anyone who states otherwise is ignorant of the facts. The victims of rape range from newborn babies, to elderly women, to men. To state that someone is raped because of the clothes they wear is a gross misstatement, and actually quite offensive. What could a baby possibly be wearing that would cause sexual excitement in a man? What about an elderly woman or another man? There are women and children who are raped in the Middle East and other Muslim majority countries. These women are usually wearing hijab. And the Janjaweed are raping babies, girls, and women in record numbers. These women are wearing hijab. Men who commit rape are predators who enjoy the control and violence of the situation. They are not normal, nor is their sexual drive. What excites them has nothing to do with normal sexual desire. It is the issue of violence and having full control. I find it very troubling that anyone would blame a rape victim for their attack. Just as it would trouble me if a murder victim were blamed for being murdered.
Available data greatly underestimate the true magnitude of the problem. Rape is one of the most underreported crimes. In 2002, only 39% of rapes and sexual assaults were reported to law enforcement officials (DOJ 2003). While not an exhaustive list, here are some statistics on the occurrence of sexual violence.
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AbRah2006
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Angela said: Rape is a women do not want to admit to when its real? Why would a woman every lie about such a thing? It happens, but such a small amount its unbelieveable you even use it as an excuse. My response: It is a small amount to you but it is a large amount to me! Lets us see what you have quoted: Women falsely accuse men of rape. Fact: Such accusations account for only 2% of reported rapes. Let us assume that there are 1 000 000 cases of rape in USA. How many men are framed women? Lets me calculate. The number of men who are falsely accused of raping women = 1 000 000 x 2/100 =10 000 men will end up in jails.
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God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8)
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There are certain motives that incite men to rape and two of the motives are women who are naked, semi-naked or wear clothes or behave in such a way that they become sexual objects that incite men to rape the women. Some rapists will not rape the victims on the spot but they will rape the women when the opportunites, space and time exist for them to rape! I don't condone rapists. In fact I hate the rapists as much as you do! 1) There are rapists who are influenced by deviant sexual arousal, which occurs when he has thoughts of violence against women. This type is likely to be extremely impulsive. 2) There are rapists who are motivated by cognitive distortions, or thinking errors; he mistakenly interprets events or information differently than other men would. He believes that some women enjoy being raped, or want to be raped. For this type, rape is part of a conquest, a way of demonstrating masculinity. Most date rapists are belong to this group. 3) There are rapists who are motivated by anger or emotional discontrol. These men are so angry, especially at women, that the only way for them to deal with their anger is to act out sexually toward women. Not surprisingly, this type is the most violent and most dangerous. 4) There are rapists who are the repeat offenders. He is most likely to have been physically or sexually abused as a child. He has difficulty establishing enduring relationships, and a history of chronic problems in schools or in his family. Type 4 men break a variety of rules, both sexual and nonsexual. You can ask a behavioral researcher why men rape and he says they just get turned on by the wrong stimuli! Islam gives us a good way to follow to minimise the probability of rape: The Quran, the Muslim's holy scripture, clearly enjoins Muslim men and women to dress and behave modestly. Muslim women are specifically instructed to cover their heads when in the presence of non-mahrem (potentially marriageable) men: Surah Al-Nur (the Light) (24:31) in the Quran states: "They (the believing women) should draw their head coverings over their bosoms...". . Surah Al-Ahzab (33:59) states: "O Prophet [PBUH] Tell thy wives and daughters and the believing women that they should put on their outer garments; that is most convenient in order that THEY MAY BE RECOGNIZED (as Muslims) and not be molested." Both of the above Quranic references instruct the Muslim woman to cover herself with a large, loose overcoat (jilbab) and full head covering (khimar) so that no provocative part of her body will be visible. Her modest appearance would MAKE IT CLEAR TO EVERYONE THAT SHE IS A CHASTE, BELIEVING WOMAN, and no one is to molest her or sexually exploit her. According to Islam a woman or girl should be accompanied by her parents, brothers, husbands or uncles who will look after her to minimise the chances of getting raped. |
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Mishmish
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Actually, even in these times rape is still difficult to prove. Many men who actually commit rape do not go to jail. Even those who do go to jail do not always spend much time behind bars. Especially men who commit child rape. You know Brother, defending rapists is not good dawah..... In Islam the rapist is put to death, as it should be. |
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Mishmish
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Assalamu Alaikum: Well Brother Abrah, if you are ever raped, I hope that you will not be accused of wearing the wrong clothes that caused the rapist to attack you, thereby making it your fault. I do not wear hijab to stop rape. If someone wants to rape, the way you are dressed will not stop them. I wear hijab for MY modesty. |
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Dear Mishmish....I am not defending rapists and I wish I can protect women from the devils. Please read my statement http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5016& ;PN=1&TPN=2 |
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Please!!!! If it was lack of sex they could hire a prostitute... These are sick pedophiles. Any one who rapes is a sick individual. Why not ask Abrah why this happens. Were the boys dressed too provocatively? To blame women for the way they dress is ridiculous and actually rather pathetic. Have men become so weak that they use any excuse for their sins? Make men responsible for their own actions. Doesn't Allah(SWT)? |
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