Quran

 Experiential
 Obviously Mohamed borrowed his ideas from the Bible.

 My Reply

 Muhammad was born in Mecca.He could not write nor read and spoke only Arabic.Hebrew Bible was not translated into Arabic until the 10th century.Bible was translated into Arabic in the 17th century.So how could Muhammad borrow his ideas from the Bible? ANCHORFREE_VERSION="623161526"var _AF2$ = {'SN':'HSSHIELD00PK','IP':'69.22.170.253','CH':'HSSCNL000080','CT':'XX','HST':'&FW_UA=MSIE/9.0&toAdltIntr=1&SFLAG=1&FBWCNT_FIREFOX=2&FBWCNT_CHROME=2&accessAdltIntr=1&clsBtnCnt=4>rk=n','AFH':'hss70','RN':Math.floor(Math.random()*999),'TOP':(parent.location!=document.location||top.location!=document.location)?0:1,'AFVER':'2.93','fbw':false,'FBWCNT':0,'FBWCNTNAME':'FBWCNT_FIREFOX','NOFBWNAME':'NO_FBW_FIREFOX','B':'f','VER': 'nonus'};if(_AF2$.TOP==1){document.write("");}

NABA wrote: at bronaz first quote me the verses of Qur'an that exhibit abrogation,where in the Qur'an is the contraindications,I don't c it.at experential,the verses U compare itself proving U wrong.SubhanAllah truly Qur'an is unexplainable in the words of man,the verses U quote from the bible doesn't prove anything regarding the word of God,there is no sun or moon mentioned,how can evening or morning happen without sun or moon??U urself quoted in verse 33 that sun and moon are floating in the orbit,is it real or not??yes it is,so U urself proving urself wrong,in Quran in Surah Al Furqaan ch 25 v 61-moon reflects the light of sun.U say that prophet Muhammad(pbuh) borrow from bible,this shows ur less knowledge,prophet Muhammad(pbuh) was illiterate but was the best man,every Muslim prays that he should intercede for them in hereafter and its our duty to send blessings to him(ch 33 v 56),since he doesn't know how to read how he can borrow from bible,firstly understand that science is a subject that studies nature,I m not taking help of science to prove Qur'an is right,I m taking help of Qur'an to prove that science is not even the size of atom in front of Qur'an.y don't U mentioned the verse ch 29 v 48-that prophet was illiterate,the more U try to prove Qur'an wrong the more U urself are proving wrong.at empiricist Jesus christ(pbuh) in the bible himself predicts coming of last prophet.

at bronaz to go to heaven one should follow four things as mentioned in Surah Al Asra ch 103 v 1-3-man is in the state of loss except those who have faith,those who do good deeds,those who resort people to truth,those who resort people to patience and perseverance,Allah in several places say that there is reward for those who believe,since Allah says this it is enough for us,but we had to constantly ask for forgiveness to him.Allah also says constantly do perseverance and b patient,in ch 8 v 46-Allah is with those who are patient.since Allah promises us there is no question of guarantee.even U can't guarantee ur place in heaven,u say That Jesus(pbuh) is God.Jesus(pbuh) says my father is greater than I whatever I do I do because of him,God has no father.at expereintial U should also b well versed with the fact that apart from Qur'an Allah also send message to our prophet,for eg prophet says that always sleep towards the right side,scientifically it is beneficial,prophet also said that whosoever raises his two daughters with love and affection,he will b close to me at time of entering heaven,so there are several things besides Qur'an that were given to prophet by Allah.i still say science is less superior than Qur'an,eg Allah in ch 45 v 12 says I had made sea for U so that ships can sail easily and other benefits.

It is obvious the moon is in an orbit around the sun, and that the earth is turning- is that another translation of orbit?

And Mohamed did not need to read, as already stated, to know what the bible said- he obviously had a dislike for Christians and Jews so he must have had much contact with them, so they probably spoke his language. Maybe somebody tried to teach him about Jesus. And again, the writers had some liberty to write what they wanted, and change it over the course of many years. They wanted to have something similar to the bible, so they rewrote it in their own words. And the Quran is not well organized. It has scattered verses, not connected.

Why don't Muslims read the New Testament? There is no punishment if Christians read the Quran or anything else. We are free to find the truth. I have read much of the Quran and the book Quran Dilemma, and it is no comparison to the bible. I hope Muslims wake up and realize they are simply being controlled for political reasons, and seek the truth. The truth is found also by writings of others- CS Lewis was an atheist before he became a Christian. See the book Mere Christianity. If a Muslim would just read this book, they would really see Christianity in a new and truthful light, not like what they are taught about how bad everything else is. This is brainwashing propaganda.

And Jesus did NOT predict Mohammed. It was the holy spirit, and it came right after his death. Mohammed came far too late to do any good. And the Quran is just a book of loopholes allowing many sins that were not allowed in the bible. Mohammed allowed murder, rape, adultery, theft, etc of non-Muslims. Jesus allowed none of this. In fact I see Muslims as always angry and frowning.

And one really as to wonder, what would the religion be like that Satan himself would create. It would be very much like Islam in my opinion- full of loopholes to sin, a deceptive copy of the bible, and full control of the people, through fear of death if they try to sway away from it, and hatred of Christians and Jews. Oh- and Muslims say they believe in Jesus too, but they have no idea what he said. They are told the bible was corrupted, so it is not correct. Is it ALL corrupted? Is the message all changed? That is simply impossible. Maybe a few passages changed, interpreted somewhat differently, but this is true for the Quran too, in fact more so! Over 50 versions at one time! This cannot be denied!

Edited by Empiricist - 04 July 2013 at 2:11pm