No One in America is Safe

aspacia wrote: Shasta'sAunt wrote: Actually far from tucking tail and running the Taliban have had a resurgence in Afghanistan and last month more U.S. soldiers died in Afghanistan than in Iraq. Not to mention all of the civilians killed in U.S. bombings. Specifically, nine were killed by the Taliban.  It was an outpost of 75 troops, and the Taliban had 200.  The payback, similar to Falluja, will not be pleasant for the Taliban.  Remember, we have drones entering Pakistan and nailing the bad guys.  Or, do you support the Taliban, and how they ruled when in power?   Al Qaeda was not in Iraq until we let them in, if they are indeed there. They did have a few training camps, and Saddam was giving a chunk of change to suicide bombers' families. How will we ever know between the invading troops, the militias, the death squads and all of the other factions our government unleashed in it's quest for oil and domination in the Middle East. Again with the oil card!  I hope that the Iraqis will benefit from the oil contracts recently initiated by other countries, not only the U.S.  I hope this allows gainful employment for the Iraqis. They benefit, and so do we.   Occupation?  Iraq had free elections, and has Sharia Law.  This irks many citizens, but this is Iraq, and the people must make their own laws.   Well, if you call elections under a military occupation by a country that handpicked the leaders free elections then you are right. Iraq is far from under Shariah law. As long as the U.S. military is the true governing authority in Iraq then they are under martial law. And once the military pulls out, although our military never completely pulls out of a country once we have gone in, then there will be genocide. We are staying to prevent a genocide and to protect our interests, and this is a Middle-Eastern ally on Syria and Iran's doorstep.  Be happy the Surge is working.   So yeah, I would say that we are winning...  Let's get ready to goose step into Iran. The goose step is an Arab trait.  Mein Kampf and The Protocols of the Elders of Zion are best sellers in the Middle-East. Does the U.S. implement numerous covert and overt violent actions.  Yes, but so do many other countries.  Remember Black Hawk Down?  We were sending food to the starving Somalia, and 18 of our troops were massacred.  We also send supplies to Burma, now Myamar.

Sign*Reader wrote: aspacia wrote: Because Bush is/was Cheney and Rummys puppet.  He did not listen to Powell.  Bush took his eye off the ball seeking revenge against the butcher, and justified it by claiming that Hussain was not abiding by the sanctions and WMD.  BTW, several tons of yellowcake was recently shipped from Iraq to Canada. This yellowcake thing should have been a  full page head line news! This would have absolved Bush and saved his legacy  in a sec reversing his dissapproval !  How did I miss it! Where is it?

You missed it because most media sources are biased, and dropped it like a hot potato:
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=ACADEMIC+ARTICLES+ON+THE+PARANORMAL&hl=en&rlz=1B2GGFB_enUS209US209&um=1&ie=UTF-8&oi=scholart

CNN mentioned it once, ditto ABC,  I did not see it in NBC.  Basically, Reuters broke the story.

Many sides argue that we all knew it was there, and not a significatnt threat.  Why then didn't Hussein show it to IAEC?:
http://www.nysun.com/editorials/iraqs-yellowcake/81328/

Yellow cake without finding the elaborate enrichment facility in over five years of occupation is like police planting the evidence you acting an unwitting accomplice!

That crossed my mind as well  I will have to research this possibility.  Generally, a few hundred pounds I would think a plant, but 500+ tons causes me to pause.

I don't think it will ever garner support and respect for your arguments in the future if you believe in such hogwash!

This is from AP sources. 

This begs the next question;do you have any foggiest idea and have an education to fathom how the uranium enrichment facility looks like for real?

 

Somewhat, as these facilities take on various forms, and my areas are English, history, poly sci and phlosophy; I am not expert in science, do you claim to be?

Why are you so angry??  You only make yourself look silly




Edited by aspacia - 21 July 2008 at 4:57pm

Shasta'sAunt wrote: aspacia wrote: Shasta'sAunt wrote: Actually far from tucking tail and running the Taliban have had a resurgence in Afghanistan and last month more U.S. soldiers died in Afghanistan than in Iraq. Not to mention all of the civilians killed in U.S. bombings. Specifically, nine were killed by the Taliban.  It was an outpost of 75 troops, and the Taliban had 200.  The payback, similar to Falluja, will not be pleasant for the Taliban.  Remember, we have drones entering Pakistan and nailing the bad guys.  Or, do you support the Taliban, and how they ruled when in power? Also, it is to offset a comment by another, and to end the comment.   Al Qaeda was not in Iraq until we let them in, if they are indeed there. They did have a few training camps, and Saddam was giving a chunk of change to suicide bombers' families. How will we ever know between the invading troops, the militias, the death squads and all of the other factions our government unleashed in it's quest for oil and domination in the Middle East. Again with the oil card!  I hope that the Iraqis will benefit from the oil contracts recently initiated by other countries, not only the U.S.  I hope this allows gainful employment for the Iraqis. They benefit, and so do we.   Occupation?  Iraq had free elections, and has Sharia Law.  This irks many citizens, but this is Iraq, and the people must make their own laws.   Well, if you call elections under a military occupation by a country that handpicked the leaders free elections then you are right. Iraq is far from under Shariah law. As long as the U.S. military is the true governing authority in Iraq then they are under martial law. And once the military pulls out, although our military never completely pulls out of a country once we have gone in, then there will be genocide. We are staying to prevent a genocide and to protect our interests, and this is a Middle-Eastern ally on Syria and Iran's doorstep.  Be happy the Surge is working.   So yeah, I would say that we are winning...  Let's get ready to goose step into Iran. The goose step is an Arab trait.  Mein Kampf and The Protocols of the Elders of Zion are best sellers in the Middle-East. Does the U.S. implement numerous covert and overt violent actions.  Yes, but so do many other countries.  Remember Black Hawk Down?  We were sending food to the starving Somalia, and 18 of our troops were massacred.  We also send supplies to Burma, now Myamar.   Wow! Is this Donald Rumsfeld? Maybe Dick Cheney?  I would accuse you of being G.W. but I doubt he could spell Burma, however I notice you misspelled Myanmar so it might be G.W. after all... Oops, a typo, I forgot the n.  You are too funny, and know good and well, I am none of the above.   You are so busy spouting right-wing propoganda Are facts "propaganda?"  Try not to point out others typos, and not expect a response.  Also, I am not considered right-wing, nor conservative, just a Jeffersonian Democrat.  That is,  pro-choice and a gay rights advocate.  Try to remember you are dealing with a So. Cal. 50+ year Democrat, that is until the last 3 or 4 years. you fail to realize that much of what you say has already been proven as falsehoods created by "your" administration to justify going to war against a sovereign nation that had no ties to 9-11, the original justification. Or have there been too many spins to remember the original justification? They found 400+ tons of yellowcake, and Hussein was not complying with the UN resolutions.  Also, many sites have posted Iraqi claims that the WMD's are in Syria.  I know contractors and instructors who have been in Saudi Arabia, and the Saudis claim that those WMD's are probably in Syria.  Sooner or later, we will find the facts.   Yes, we went in to spread democracy and save the Iraqis from the evil Saddam, the same evil Saddam we put in power and funded. Sure did, against our old adversary Iran.  Remember the hostage crisis, and the inept Carter? Why weren't we concerned with saving the Iraqis from the evil Saddam for the 20 years we helped keep him in power? Giving him money, weapons, and carte blanche while he tortured, murdered and used our chemical weapons on his own people. Sure enough, and it was because he was attacking Iran.    Similarly, we help bin Laden and his fight against the Soviets.  Shifting alliances. Even condemning Israel when it bombed the nuclear reactor at Osirak. WOW! That's something we don't see everyday! Condemning Israel in favor of Saddam. Strange how he went from being our BFF to being the devil incarnate.  Sad how so many deluded Americans believed it. He attempted to assassinate Bush Senior.  Is the light coming on?  We have imprisoned and executed Jews and Israelis for spying: Rosenbergs, Pollack, and others.   How could you possibly know what books are best sellers in the Middle East? I read a huge amount of Arab media, especially while on vacation  Our web sites are not blocked as most Middle-Eastern media sites are. I doubt even the totalitarian American controled puppet regimes have that information. Actually, they perpetuate the myths to divert attention from their failings. From what info I could find Palestinians bought some copies of Mein Kampf in 1999, but they have no country thanks to the Israelis, and it was a good seller in Turkey, which is actually a part of the EU. When the Arabs quit demanding "the right of return," a settlement will probably be reached.  And please, do not give me a bunch of s#$% regarding their rights.  What about the 650,000 Jews expelled from Arab lands, and absorbed by Israel. Turkey is not part of the EU . For some insight: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4701162.stm This is only one site, but there are many.  Try a Google search, and if you have access to an academic site, this will help.   But it is also sold quite openly and freely in the United States where white supremacists and neo-nazis abound. They even hold open public events where they "goose step" through our major cities and have ex-nazis give speeches. Yes.  I have read both in academic classrooms.  Both were ripped apart.  We have strong First Amendment rights, whereas, most of Europe, Middle-East, Africa, South America, Central  America etc., do not.  Very few U.S. citizen believe this garbage.  We are educated against fascism and totalitarianism.  As for The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, that has been embraced quite warmly by many groups in the U.S. including lots of Christians. Over a millions copies purchased in the U.S. alone. Sure enough, I purchased a copy for class.  This was for awareness, not indoctrination purposes.   [quote]But I can see your point, as a country we are equal opportunity haters. We can hate anyone and everyone as long as they are a little different or the government and media tell us to. In the Middle East they seem to focus more on those who have actually caused trouble and hardship, the Israelis and the U.S. government. Hum, can a Buddhist worship is much of the Middle-East.  Are Copts dhiminis?  How about women's rights?  Can I drive in Saudi Arabia?  I am one of the kaffir or infidels or dhiminis in the Middle-East, are you in the U.S.  Nope, you are equally protected, not the same can be said of other minorities in the Middle East.  You may be poorer than others, well guess what, so am I.   [quote]I know, to most Americans giving away a whole country or covertly/overtly destroying people's lives for over 50 years isn't a big deal. But to the country-less and those whose lives we have been messing around with it appears to[quote] be. I suppose if you mess around with people long enough you shouldn't be surprised if they mess back.

Jordan is and was designated Arab by the UK; whereas previously it was to be Israeli.  This land mass is far larger than Israel.  Also, we send quite a bit of money to Arabs, albeit they use it to kill their rivals.  The Arabs chose to invade, and quite simply lost.

How about the fact that no Jews were allowed into Jerusalem until they took it in 1967. 

Now, who is more xenophobic?

Aspacia: