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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Noah Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 August 2007 at 5:40am
what an excellent idea this is forum starters. I will participate and i wish you all the best with the project it is as noble as they come. mashaAllah, Jazek Allah khein!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Whisper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 July 2007 at 11:27pm

Whisper, are you really claiming that if someone looks at how defending themselves against America's warmongering presidency, then that person is degrudging and fanciful? 

Usama, must apologise for being away somewhere in my own world, plus Islamicity didn't notify your post, couldn't respond on time.

We must really pity the US with their nose bloodied, in Iraq and also in Afghanistan, the combined plights of their image and of the only gaad they trust!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote usama Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 June 2007 at 6:18am

Whisper, are you really claiming that if someone looks at how defending themselves against America's warmongering presidency, then that person is degrudging and fanciful? 

 

You seem to ignore that America is the world empire forcing its might throughout the world and even forcing its primacy in outerspace. There are plans to make American military expeditionary transports through outerorbital routes so a transport of Special Forces units would fly into the outer atmosphere and back. This would enable them to travel greater distances in shorter time, like circling the earth within an hour. Doesn't that just make you feel warm inside?

America is the global empire with 700 military installations and imperial REAL TIME hegemonic designs. Americans today who say 9/11/01 and then follow with invading Iraq, Syria, Iran, Africa, and continue to outspend the world several times over in military spending are liars and hypocrites of the worse kind. And Allah (SWT) has addressed their ilk in His Holy Quran (in translation):

 

2:8 And of mankind are some who say: We believe in Allah and the Last Day, when they believe not.

2:9 They think to beguile Allah and those who believe, and they beguile none save themselves; but they perceive not.

2:10 In their hearts is a disease, and Allah increaseth their disease. A painful doom is theirs because they lie.

2:11 And when it is said unto them: Make not mischief in the earth, they say: We are peacemakers only.

2:12 Are not they indeed the mischief makers? But they perceive not.

2:13 And when it is said unto them: Believe as the people believe, they say: Shall we believe as the foolish believe? Are not they indeed the foolish? But they know not.

2:14 And when they fall in with those who believe, they say: We believe; but when they go apart to their devils they declare: Lo! we are with you; verily we did but mock.

2:15 Allah (Himself) doth mock them, leaving them to wander blindly on in their contumacy.

2:16 These are they who purchase error at the price of guidance, so their commerce doth not prosper, neither are they guided.

2:17 Their likeness is as the likeness of one who kindleth fire, and when it sheddeth its light around him Allah taketh away their light and leaveth them in darkness, where they cannot see,

2:18 Deaf, dumb and blind; and they return not

2:19 Or like a rainstorm from the sky, wherein is darkness, thunder and the flash of lightning. They thrust their fingers in their ears by reason of the thunder-claps, for fear of death. Allah encompasseth the disbelievers (in His guidance).

2:20 The lightning almost snatcheth away their sight from them. As often as it flasheth forth for them they walk therein, and when it darkeneth against them they stand still. If Allah willed, He could destroy their hearing and their sight. Lo! Allah is Able to do all things.

2:21 O mankind! Worship your Lord, Who hath created you and those before you, so that ye may ward off (evil).

Let there arise from amongst you a group inviting to all that is good, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and they are the successful ones. Al Imran:104
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Whisper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 May 2007 at 7:30am

If the Iraqis, Afghans, and Somalis maintain the pressure on the American military effort, sooner or later the American ruling class that instigated these wars, will see this whole thing boomerang back to them, in their own backyard.
Brother, do you hold some personal grudge or unfulfilled fantsy against the poor "American folks" that in almost all your posts, you seem to be pushing war on them? Specially, when even the Iraqis and the Afghans have started to pity their plight in their countries

Have wars ever solved anything ever in our history? It seems that Islam has started to teach solving all problems with nothing other than but wars, just since you appeared on this Forum

I sincerely, pray for you to heal.

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Originally posted by Duende Duende wrote:

Iraq stands to lose between $74-194 billion in these agreements over the life of the contracts, which will most likely be in effect for 40 years.

That plan requires the Iraqi people to be obedient to their ruling class for the next 40 years. That is probably where the plan will go wrong. The Iraqis are not Christians. They don't "believe" that obedience to the ruling class is an obligation, religious or otherwise.

This whole thing will backfire. The misadventure of the American ruling class in Iraq, the war's human and economic costs to the American people, will lead to questioning the legitimacy of this ruling class, in the US itself.

History might simply repeat itself, depending on how "expensive" the current war on Islam will turn out to be. When the Russians really had enough of the war with the Germans in 1917, they decided to start killing their elite instead of killing the Germans.

The Vietnam war came close to stir a revolution in the US, and the war in Afghanistan brought the Soviet Union to its knees.

It would be enough that the current war on Islam leads to taxing the wrong people more than they are willing to accept, or that a crash in the dollar empoverishes the wrong group of people, who do not necessarily connect to the idea of "America is the best", such as the Hispanics, to trigger a violent revolt in the US itself.

If the Iraqis, Afghans, and Somalis maintain the pressure on the American military effort, sooner or later the American ruling class that instigated these wars, will see this whole thing boomerang back to them, in their own backyard.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Duende Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 October 2006 at 5:38am
Ruggedtouch wrote:

"I wasn�t aware that the West was robbing the Muslims� of anything.

Perhaps you could enlighten us as to what the Muslims� are being
robbed of and who is doing the robbing."

You might have a less rugged touch if you informed yourself about
Muslim's grievances before posting: this is a community here, you'll
find several regular posters who can confidently speak for most of us
when it comes to standing up for Muslim's concerns.

Since you seem to be having some trouble grasping today's reality,
here's some information for you.
From: "Grand Theft Babylon" by Ann Berg posted at www.antiwar.com

"Iraq is on the verge of ceding control of its oil reserves to American
and British oil companies. If all goes as planned, the oil giants will
have performed the heist of the century.

A little-known analysis by Greg Muttitt in November 2005 for Global
Policy Forum reveals the breathtaking earnings to be generated by
the "production sharing agreements" [.pdf] ready for signing the day
Iraq officially forms its new government. These agreements, which in
name imply revenue-sharing and state control over the underground
assets, in truth are vehicles so skewed in favor of Anglo-American
petroleum companies that they have no counterpart in today's oil
world.

According to Muttitt's conservative estimates, Iraq stands to lose
between $74-194 billion in these agreements over the life of the
contracts, which will most likely be in effect for 40 years. Instead of
the average rate of return of 12 percent generated by most oil field
development investments today, these arrangements will net
between 42 and 162 percent."

You can find more on the ongoing looting of Iraq (and hence thieving
from Muslims) being carried out by the Bush administration along
with countless private 'contracters' in Iraq at www.alternet.org
articles titled: Bush's Petro-Cartel Almost Has Iraq's Oil by Joshua
Holland

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Whisper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 October 2006 at 3:56am

He's now gone to such desperate means as to answer on behalf of other posters.

LTHOMWS!

Your ultimate dream of being stalked come true.

CHLTHOMWS!!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ruggedtouch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 October 2006 at 2:50am
Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

I wasn�t aware that the West was robbing the Muslims� of anything. Then, kindly, do become aware by reading some serious books. West is not just robbing Muslims, but almost anyone and everyone. The poor and now badly bleeding Latin American robbed are not Muslims.

Has anyone else noticed that my own personal stalker is becoming even more desperate and pathological in his attempts to garner my attention? He's now gone to such desperate means as to answer on behalf of other posters.

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