creation never happened!

bmzsp wrote: fogtrick wrote: "(if you're 20 something, wear a turbine and islamic tradition dress with a long beard then you're not gonna be hugged by sexy women on the dance floor)" fogtrick, how does one wear a turbine? Cheers, mate. BMZ

fogtrick is probably still having a hangover from that time in the bar, remember? he's got to drink a lot of water to flush that booz right out of his system...

don't you know the turbine has evolved from a turban? They are directly related because one gives you energy to do mechanical work while the other gives you faith to do spiritual work!!

I could spend my whole life time doing genetic research on the relatedness of these two and add more branches to the phylogenetic tree!!

Here is an exerpt from "the evolution deceit"

Another of the misleading methods that evolutionists employ on the issue of natural selection is their effort to present this mechanism as a conscious designer. However, natural selection has no consciousness. It does not possess a will that can decide what is good and what is bad for living things. As a result, one cannot explain biological systems and organs that possess the feature of "irreducible complexity" by natural selection. These systems and organs are composed of a great number of parts cooperating together, and are of no use if even one of these parts is missing or defective. (For example, the human eye does not function unless it exists with all its components intact). Therefore, the will that brings all these parts together should be able to foresee the future and aim directly at the advantage that is to be acquired at the final stage. Since natural selection has no consciousness or will, it can do no such thing. This fact, which demolishes the foundations of the theory of evolution, also worried Darwin, who wrote: "If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down."  Charles Darwin, The Origin of Species: A Facsimile of the First Edition, Harvard University Press, 1964, p. 189.

Assalam-u-alaikum

Fogtrik,

Actually he has used NASA figures to calculate the speed of light, but i am sure you would not admit it. How does it feel to get the speed of light to the tenth of a decimal point from a book written 1400 years ago??  Of course you would never admit it especially since you treat theories as facts meanwhile just shrugging the facts to the side.

Irsh'.

Irr' Complexity, does not exist. The best example is the flagella, but all the proteins exist in othe arrangment and show increasing levels of complexity.

Take the formation of ATP, from AMP to ADP to ATP. 5-ribose-whatwever goes by 14 intermediate steps before it is converted into AMP. Some think this is an Irr' complex pathway, but others think that quantum superpositions help the molecules solve these types of NP complete problems. The boat is still out, but not looking good for intelligent design which isn't a science theory but a belief. This is no debate on this. Scientists don't want to even comment on it, its just to silly for most. 

You need to give individual proteins more credit? Wikipedia.org kinesin, cool little proteins that walk along microtubules.