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Originally posted by DavidC DavidC wrote:

The best proof Muhummad was a prophet is the existence and growth of Islam, and the organization of the godless Quyrash into a worshipful and monotheistic society.

These things could not happen without God's counsel and approval. I am a Christian but this seems indisputable. Simply compare Arabic society before and after Muhammad.


So what accounts for the much more rapid growth of the Mongol Empire?

Or the massively transforming cultural conquest that has happened since about 1700 with the modern western Enlightenment of science/democracy/rule of law/industrialisation?

Are these events also the result of God wanting it to happen?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote airmano Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 January 2018 at 2:24am
Question by Akthus:
Quote So the question is what proof is there that the Quran was from God...


Miaw's Answer
Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIPhDa5CONg
http://www.islamweb.net/en/article/143341/evidence-that-muhammad-was-a-prophet
https://islamqa.info/en/13804]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU7J6wfeDvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIPhDa5CONg
http://www.islamweb.net/en/article/143341/evidence-that-muhammad-was-a-prophet
https://islamqa.info/en/13804


@Miaw:   Do you have words of your own to explain your point of view ?

To me it looks as if you said: I have no clue but you may find an answer in these videos[Good luck !].   If not, well I can not really help you either.



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Edited by airmano - 22 January 2018 at 7:57am
The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses (Albert Einstein 1954, in his "Gods Letter")
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DavidC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 January 2018 at 10:31pm
The best proof Muhummad was a prophet is the existence and growth of Islam, and the organization of the godless Quyrash into a worshipful and monotheistic society.

These things could not happen without God's counsel and approval. I am a Christian but this seems indisputable. Simply compare Arabic society before and after Muhammad.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Peace maker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 January 2018 at 3:45pm
Originally posted by akthus akthus wrote:

This is a genuine question.
What proof do we really have that Muhammad was a prophet.
After all the claim is only made by him and then we are meant to believe the Quran was from God. But everything written down in the Quran came through Muhammad.

We are meant to believe the Bible and Torah but there are some huge differences between these books and the Quran.

Everybody who believes in his religion claims that their religion is correct and someone else's is wrong.

So the question is what proof is there that the Quran was from God. Please don't say the Quran says so and you must believe it. That would not be proof.


The Quran was not from God.

Jesus predicted it long before islam apeared on the screen.

Jesus� prophecy of false teachers coming in His name began to be fulfilled even during the era of the apostles. Paul mentioned a number of false teachers. He said a �different gospel� was already being preached

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Originally posted by NABA NABA wrote:

﴿سورة المؤمنون﴾

١٢) وَلَقَدْ خَلَقْنَا الْإِنْسَانَ مِنْ سُلَالَةٍ مِنْ طِينٍ

١٣) ثُمَّ جَعَلْنَاهُ نُطْفَةً فِي قَرَارٍ مَكِينٍ

١٤) ثُمَّ خَلَقْنَا النُّطْفَةَ عَلَقَةً فَخَلَقْنَا الْعَلَقَةَ مُضْغَةً فَخَلَقْنَا الْمُضْغَةَ عِظَامًا فَكَسَوْنَا الْعِظَامَ لَحْمًا ثُمَّ أَنْشَأْنَاهُ خَلْقًا آخَرَ ۚ فَتَبَارَكَ اللَّهُ أَحْسَنُ الْخَالِقِينَ

[Quran Chapter 23]

12. We created man from an extract of clay.

13. Then We made him a seed, in a secure repository.

14. Then We developed the seed into a clot. Then We developed the clot into a lump. Then We developed the lump into bones. Then We clothed the bones with flesh. Then We produced it into another creature. Most Blessed is Allah, the Best of Creators.here in this verse whole human embryo development is mentioned which was discovered by scientists in 1900's,this cannot be said by prophet Muhammad Saw (Pbuh),it was mentioned by Allah


A embrio does not developed from a blood clot, but from "a male cell and a female cell" and God created the first man out of the "dust of the earth" blood clots you get when your blood thickens in your veins.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MIAW Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 January 2018 at 12:06pm
Originally posted by akthus akthus wrote:

This is a genuine question.
What proof do we really have that Muhammad was a prophet.
...
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So the question is what proof is there that the Quran was from God...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU7J6wfeDvo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIPhDa5CONg

http://www.islamweb.net/en/article/143341/evidence-that-muhammad-was-a-prophet

https://islamqa.info/en/13804




Edited by MIAW - 26 January 2018 at 12:29pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tim the plumber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 January 2018 at 8:09am
Originally posted by NABA NABA wrote:

﴿سورة المؤمنون﴾

١٢) وَلَقَدْ خَلَقْنَا الْإِنْسَانَ مِنْ سُلَالَةٍ مِنْ طِينٍ

١٣) ثُمَّ جَعَلْنَاهُ نُطْفَةً فِي قَرَارٍ مَكِينٍ

١٤) ثُمَّ خَلَقْنَا النُّطْفَةَ عَلَقَةً فَخَلَقْنَا الْعَلَقَةَ مُضْغَةً فَخَلَقْنَا الْمُضْغَةَ عِظَامًا فَكَسَوْنَا الْعِظَامَ لَحْمًا ثُمَّ أَنْشَأْنَاهُ خَلْقًا آخَرَ ۚ فَتَبَارَكَ اللَّهُ أَحْسَنُ الْخَالِقِينَ

[Quran Chapter 23]

12. We created man from an extract of clay.

13. Then We made him a seed, in a secure repository.

14. Then We developed the seed into a clot. Then We developed the clot into a lump. Then We developed the lump into bones. Then We clothed the bones with flesh. Then We produced it into another creature. Most Blessed is Allah, the Best of Creators.here in this verse whole human embryo development is mentioned which was discovered by scientists in 1900's,this cannot be said by prophet Muhammad Saw (Pbuh),it was mentioned by Allah



That is not at all a desciption of the development of any embryo.

It is not infact a description of the growth of an embryo in the Koran. Why do you want it to be something it is not and is wrong for the thing you want itto be?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tim the plumber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 January 2018 at 8:07am
Originally posted by NABA NABA wrote:

﴿سورة الذاريات ٤٧﴾ وَالسَّمَاءَ بَنَيْنَاهَا بِأَيْدٍ وَإِنَّا لَمُوسِعُونَ

[Quran 51:47] We constructed the universe with power, and We are expanding it.

Here Allah is saying Allah created universe and he is expanding it 1400 years ago in Quran, Edwin Hubble discovered this fact in late 1800's,so how could an illiterate man could say such an advanced thing, certainly it was Allah who wrote Quran.     


What do you think Hubble discovered and how was it described in the Koran?
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