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TG12345
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Regarding expanding and spreading, if you read tafsir Ibn Abbas, you will see that it is referring to the present tense. (We have built) created (the heaven with might, and We it is who make the vast extent (thereof)) as We will; it is also said that this means: we expand the provision thereof. http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=73&tSoraNo=51&tAyahNo=47&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2 Regarding the plural term for God, I don't think the Quran teaches that He is a Trinity, like the Bible does. Of course we know that He is, and with the historical and scientific errors it contains, that is another piece of evidence that though the Quran has a lot of wisdom and good in it, it is not from God. Speaking of truths that could only come to a human from a supernatural source, consider Job 26:7 He stretches out the north over a void And hangs the earth on nothing There is no way a human being living thousands of years ago would have known this. Praise God! |
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There are lots of Verses in the Qur'an, and there are variety of subjects in it. Edwin Hubble was the first person to experience first hand the lost of the returning light. He Who created the seven heavens one above another: No want of proportion wilt thou see in the Creation of (Allah) Most Gracious. So turn thy vision again: seest thou any flaw? (67:3) Again turn thy vision a second time: (thy) vision will come back to thee dull and discomfited, in a state worn out. (67:4) |
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Caringheart
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Greetings nothing, I am lost on what it is you are wanting to say here. What does this verse mean to you? Salaam, Caringheart |
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Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
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When you watch a car moving away from you at night you see the rear light slowly disappearing, until it fully disappeared, yes?. But when you are watching the heaven to see if if it is moving away or not naturally we don't stand in the back yard staring at the stars, no? The sight of heaven we see today is still the same look as when Adam and Eve were still running around naked. We can stand in the back yard till die and the view does not change. Taking photos at the sky is different. One photo tonight and another photo next week. With this method Edwin Hubble noticed that the second photo always had lesser light (dull, discomfited, worn out) than the previous one. The conclusion was that the heavenly bodies that look sit still since Adam era is actually moving away from us - the Universe is expanding, just like rear light of the moving away car. So if the astronomers yelled to us that the light is getting brighter, well time for us to dig a bunker. Alright, take a deep breath, relax, it is not the thing to stress you out, and live in peace. |
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Ron Webb
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Well, not quite. It's not that there is less light, or any significant change in the light from one photo to the next. The reason Hubble concluded that distant galaxies are moving away from us is due to the Doppler shift in the light's spectrum. Essentially the light is just a tiny bit redder than it ought to be. It's like when you hear an ambulance siren as it passes you -- the pitch is lower when the source is moving away from you (and higher as it is approaching you) compared to its pitch when it is stationary. If you want more detail, you can read a simple explanation here: http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Hubble |
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