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Reepicheep
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whitelion553 wrote: for example freedom in Canada :this government didn�t let Iranians take part in election of Iran.
No, you are wrong. In fact, quite the opposite. It is the Iranian government which didn't allow Canadian Iranians to vote: �Iran has taken no steps to arrange for Iranians in Canada to participate in this election, confirming that the regime itself sees the vote as an empty propaganda exercise. We have not yet received any proposal from Iran concerning the representation of its interests in Canada. Despite having nine months to make such an arrangement, Iran has failed to do so, depriving Iranian nationals of a range of services as well as the opportunity to vote. �This sidelining of the sizable Iranian diaspora in Canada is, sadly, not surprising and makes this upcoming election even more of a sham. �Canada will continue to stand with those millions of disenfranchised Iranians and will work with those on the ground, pushing for meaningful reforms and for Iranians� basic rights to be respected. While we long ago lost faith in the regressive and hollow Iranian regime, we have not lost faith in the Iranian people.� Baird Comments on Iran�s Suppression of Democratic Voices Before Election |
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Ron Webb
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You accuse the terrorists of disunity, presumably because they oppose your ideology; but they could as easily accuse you of disunity because you oppose their ideology. What's the difference? Why would you expect them to change their ideology for the sake of unity? Why don't you change your ideology to match theirs?
And they would say that you create difference by your lies.
How is diversity different from disunity? In my opinion, diversity implies tolerance of differences, while disunity implies intolerance. Therefore appeals to unity are really disguised appeals to intolerance.
I see that Reepicheep has already responded to this.
I can't really comment on any of this without specfic examples. I can agree that the CRTC (Canadian Radio and Television Commission) would ban foreign TV channels that promote intolerance. I also think you may be confusing Canada with the United States. In Canada the police absolutely do respond to the defense of minority groups, and rarely if ever break up a "simple march" with force.
So am I, but that isn't what I was talking about. I am saying that Muslims in the Middle East tend to vote for leaders who promote unity under totalitarianism (a.k.a. shariah), rather than diversity and freedom. |
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whitelion553
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Salam, government of Canada closed our consul in that country .it was very bad action to Iranians . Iranians couldn�t to participate in election for kindness of that country. |
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whitelion553
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In the name of Allah 1:I suggest u study about means of terrorism .who is terrorist ?what is terror? 2:there is not any force in accepting orders of Islam for u. we only invite and declare our minds and beliefs .you are free for accepting or not accepting. 3:I
guess America is king and other western
countries must obey their king. 4:if u r disagree with our minds ,don�t make trouble for us .u go ur way with ur disunities .we keep on our way with our unity .be certain ,Muslims will keep this way for ever .Muslims are in tense for western politics (watch western wonderful politics in Iraq ,Afghanistan ,Pakistan ,�)bad condition of this countries is product of western armies . western soldiers slept and ate their food for many years and gave them safety .do u see their safety ? for this safety , Taliban has international state .now, this terroristic group can do every work .thanks for this gift. 5:Ron Webb said : And they would say that you create difference by your lies. be polite .u must say sorry for ur insult. |
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whitelion553
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Islamic
Revolution Leader Ayatollah Sayyed Ali Khamenei told "According to
historical documents the movements always resisted against dictatorship and
imperialism" Ayatollah Khamenei said that the murders of three students in
Tehran University during an anti American march in 1953 further highlighted
their anti arrogant mood Ayatollah
Khamenei also highlighted the anti arrogant mood of the university students by
mentioning their move to form the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC)
fighting against armed groups in universities seizure of American embassy
participation in the 8years
Sacred Defense and fighting against different plots in the course of the past 30years"
The student movement has proved to be against cruelty It opposes any crimes
against the oppressed people in Iraq Palestine Afghanistan and other nations
across the world ".Formation of the Islamic system in Iran was a response
to the historical need of the Iranian nation Surely no system except the
Islamic and religious system could eradicate the royal system which was
dependent on America The great presence of the people and the great national
movement was not possible unless under the leadership of the late Imam
Khomeini" . the Islamic System had been targeted by the arrogance and the
Zionist network because of what it approved or rejected in the international
diplomacy. The Islamic Republic definitely rejects domineering policies and
ethical secularism while it is approved of efforts to preserve Islamic values
defend world innocent people and conquer scientific peaks "If we budge on
these principles the enemy hostility would indeed decrease They mean to make us
to budge by saying that Iran should change its conduct" Ayatollah Khamenei
pointed out the Islamic System would never budge on its values adding that the
system could push back the equipped enemy by sticking to its platform Comparing
the current position of America in the Middle East with its position 15 years ago Ayatollah
Khamenei said that the country had grown more hated and humiliated having seen
the failure of its projects in the region especially in Palestine Lebanon Iraq
and Afghanistan while the IRI which has been primarily targeted by the projects
had made advances "The resistance and progress point to the might and the
enduing grandeur of the Islamic System" the IR Leader said adding that in
order to keep the situation the aspirations of the Islamic Republic must be
preserved. Ayatollah Khamenei noted that the legal and official structure of
the Islamic Republic including the three branches of power and other bodies
were not enough to secure the survival of the system adding that in order to
secure the system it was essential to preserve its identity which is its
aspirations" The true identity of the Islamic system surfaces in its
aspirations namely justice human dignity equality ethics and resistance against
enemy". The IR Leader warned that if Islamic ethics and justice are
ignored and the authorities refuse to serve people and show weakness towards
the enemy the attribute of Islamic could be of no help for the system .The
Islamic Revolution Leader urged the nation to take care of the spirit of the
system noting that loss of spirit was gradual so that many fail to notice it or
may notice it when it is late. Ayatollah Khamenei said the most important
responsibility of the students was to keep a watchful eye and keep the Islamic
system from deviation "In the past thirty years especially after the demise of
Imam Khomeini there were many efforts to spoil the spirit of the Islamic System
They failed under the auspices of Gods favor as well as peoples vigilance"
Ayatollah Khamenei said "At one
point the separation of religion and politics was publicized in our press Even
some were explicitly defending the tyrant callous regime of Pahlavi" the
IR Leader deplored adding that the only way to combat any deviation was to
highlight ideological intellectual and political boundaries and to preserve the
Islamic features of the system .The IR Leader named the features as justice
seeking sincere work unstopping scientific quest firm resistance against alien
greed and brave defense of national interests. 2008/12/14 "The people make the utterance to us who waged two world
wars in the course of twenty years
and applied their military force wherever they could Their crimes in Hiroshima
Iraq Afghanistan Palestine and Kosovo stand samples of their attitude and
performance" The
Leader emphasized that anyone who keeps to the right path will surely benefit
from divine assistance |
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Caringheart
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Greetings Whitelion,
"It opposes any crimes against the oppressed people in Iraq Palestine Afghanistan and other nations across the world"This is the problem as I see it... islam opposes any oppression of anyone claiming to be muslim... but does not care one whit about the oppression of others. It in fact approves wholeheartedly of the oppression of others and seeks to conform them to islam. Does Iran or Saudi Arabia treat all its citizens equally, or do they oppress those not professing islam as their religion? Let's define oppression? Who are the oppressed? I wish to direct a question to the people of Iran and/or those who are in support of Iran and its actions... What will happen to the people of Iran if their government continues, in its conquest against israel, to develop a nuclear weapon and drops it on Israel? What do they think will happen then to them? Do they understand that nuclear war will mean the end of us all? All except maybe those world powers and leaders who will go into their underground safety shelters. Who will be left in the world? The good people, or the evil? Who will suffer, the leader who decides to do this dastardly deed, or the innocent people who have nowhere to hide from it and its after effects? Is the leader really thinking of his people? Salaam. Edited by Caringheart - 24 June 2013 at 5:41pm |
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Ron Webb
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We have an expression that you may have heard: "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter." It depends on your point of view. But you used the word, not me, so you tell me: Who are the terrorists that you were talking about?
I know enough about shariah to know that if I had been born in Iran I would be either in prison or dead by now, for promoting "disunity".
I agree in principle that western governments should not be meddling in Muslim countries as much as they do, but it's hard not to intervene when we see the violence that is committed against women, non-Muslims, homosexuals and other minorities that threaten your "unity".
I am sorry that you misunderstood. I am not calling you a liar. I am referring to the people you call "terrorists" and whom you accuse of lying. They are the ones who would call you a liar. |
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Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect.
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Ron Webb
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No offense intended, Whitelion, but there is little point in posting something like this. Automated translation is barely readable at best. Without proper punctuation and paragraph separation it becomes utterly hopeless.
I realize that English is not your native language, and I admire your hard work in posting English messages on this forum; but I would rather read a few sentences your own words, rather than whole pages of translated text from someone else.
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