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mankind
Newbie Joined: 19 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 29 |
Posted: 06 October 2005 at 10:43pm | |
nah i was talkin about cigerettes...but to israfil..u stay away from caffine becuz u don like it n u believe it hurts u not becuz u think its haram..thas upto u..if u think weed is haram n u avoid it thas upto u too..i wanna know why its haram n if the quran said that..i really dont undestand..is it cuz all the western world started m,aking it illegal n then the whole world decided to do that?...
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Angel
Senior Member Joined: 03 July 2001 Status: Offline Points: 6641 |
Posted: 06 October 2005 at 10:31pm | |
I don't think mankind has said anything about cigerettes, he says cigz which translated is cigers. Could be wrong thou ;) Both are bad anyway. |
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Israfil
Senior Member Joined: 08 September 2003 Status: Offline Points: 3984 |
Posted: 06 October 2005 at 9:37pm | |
I mentioned caffine right? that is also apart of a mind altering drug as well.....as I mentioned I try to avoid things with caffine. |
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mankind
Newbie Joined: 19 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 29 |
Posted: 06 October 2005 at 6:04pm | |
hi, decent reply..by the way dont wry you wont offend us..we r all here to learn from eachother..
but again sry no one showed me n e verse in the quran that says cigz or marijuana is haram..ur r ryt its bad..and again u said n e thing that alters ur state of mind does this mean coffee is haram too?..am not tryin to change the subject am tryin to question ur statement..n yea those ancinet ppl have discovered the pleasures behind it..."the pleasure"...we r talking about a plant that naturally grows not man made drug such as crack cocaine... |
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Israfil
Senior Member Joined: 08 September 2003 Status: Offline Points: 3984 |
Posted: 06 October 2005 at 5:52pm | |
No offense to both of you (Deus and mankind) but both of you
maybe slightly off. first off cigarettes are Haraam by way that the chemical nicotine is a type of 'intoxicant' because it creates a 'high effect' by those who inhale the cigarette. not only is it a type of high but is an addictive. I believe anything that can alter your state of mind (both excessive and recessive) is bad for you. Both cigarettes and Marijuana is bad for you. Plus while we are inhaling the smoke these are not 'natural highs' these are chemical highs which are grown natural on earth. a lot of advocates on both sides use the theological argument "If God didn't want us to smoke it he wouldn't have allowed the earth to grow it." first off that is a bunch of B.S because only those ancient tribes who have cultivated the land have found out the hidden pleasures behind these plants (tobacco and marijuana). I'm sure you guys will use the caffine arguement, yes that is a type of mind altering high of course but that is why I try to avoid caffine as much as I can. I believe that our natural state of mind which is unaltered is the only state we should be in. Any hinderence of that for self pleasure is Haraam cigarettes included. If you think marijuana won't kill you try somking 20 each day and see what happens maybe you'll make science. |
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mankind
Newbie Joined: 19 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 29 |
Posted: 06 October 2005 at 5:48pm | |
am sure u can show me a verse that says dont kill ur self..BUT..not about cigz...thanx for the site but not convinced i would be if u show me sumthing of the quran not sumthing online...n am talking about cigz..i know the quran tells u not to kill ur self..n just for ur info ppl die in sooo many ways ppl who hae been smoking for yrs n yrs die of sumting else..n sum others can die of sumting not that serious..but u r ryt it does hurt the body..but not haram
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Deus
Senior Member Joined: 13 July 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 134 |
Posted: 06 October 2005 at 5:44pm | |
Here you go man: http://www.islamic-paths.org/Home/English/FAQ/ME&E/Smoki ng.htm Smoking kills you and others. I can show you more than one verse that tells you not to kill yourself. |
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mankind
Newbie Joined: 19 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 29 |
Posted: 06 October 2005 at 5:00pm | |
sry man..ur wrong cigz r not Haram..u myt refer to them as mekruh...(not liked).. |
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