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Points: 29 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 October 2005 at 10:43pm
nah i was talkin about cigerettes...but to israfil..u stay away from caffine becuz u don like it n u believe it hurts u not becuz u think its haram..thas upto u..if u think weed is haram n u avoid it thas upto u too..i wanna know why its haram n if the quran said that..i really dont undestand..is it cuz all the western world started m,aking it illegal n then the whole world decided to do that?...
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Points: 6641 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 October 2005 at 10:31pm

I don't think mankind has said anything about cigerettes, he says cigz which translated is cigers. Could be wrong thou ;)

Both are bad anyway.
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Points: 3984 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 October 2005 at 9:37pm

I mentioned caffine right? that is also apart of a mind altering drug as well.....as I mentioned I try to avoid things with caffine.
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Points: 29 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 October 2005 at 6:04pm
hi, decent reply..by the way dont wry you wont offend us..we r all here to learn from eachother..
but again sry no one showed me n e verse in the quran that says cigz or marijuana is haram..ur r ryt its bad..and again u said n e thing that alters ur state of mind does this mean coffee is haram too?..am not tryin to change the subject am tryin to question ur statement..n yea those ancinet ppl have discovered the pleasures behind it..."the pleasure"...we r talking about a plant that naturally grows not man made drug such as crack cocaine...
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Points: 3984 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 October 2005 at 5:52pm
No offense to both of you (Deus and mankind) but both of you
maybe slightly off. first off cigarettes are Haraam by way that the
chemical nicotine is a type of 'intoxicant' because it creates a
'high effect' by those who inhale the cigarette. not only is it a
type of high but is an addictive. I believe anything that can alter
your state of mind (both excessive and recessive) is bad for
you. Both cigarettes and Marijuana is bad for you. Plus while
we are inhaling the smoke these are not 'natural highs' these
are chemical highs which are grown natural on earth.

a lot of advocates on both sides use the theological argument
"If God didn't want us to smoke it he wouldn't have allowed the
earth to grow it." first off that is a bunch of B.S because only
those ancient tribes who have cultivated the land have found
out the hidden pleasures behind these plants (tobacco and
marijuana).

I'm sure you guys will use the caffine arguement, yes that is a
type of mind altering high of course but that is why I try to avoid
caffine as much as I can. I believe that our natural state of mind
which is unaltered is the only state we should be in. Any
hinderence of that for self pleasure is Haraam cigarettes
included. If you think marijuana won't kill you try somking 20
each day and see what happens maybe you'll make science.
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Points: 29 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 October 2005 at 5:48pm
am sure u can show me a verse that says dont kill ur self..BUT..not about cigz...thanx for the site but not convinced i would be if u show me sumthing of the quran not sumthing online...n am talking about cigz..i know the quran tells u not to kill ur self..n just for ur info ppl die in sooo many ways ppl who hae been smoking for yrs n yrs die of sumting else..n sum others can die of sumting not that serious..but u r ryt it does hurt the body..but not haram
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Points: 134 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 October 2005 at 5:44pm

Here you go man:

http://www.islamic-paths.org/Home/English/FAQ/ME&E/Smoki ng.htm

Smoking kills you and others. I can show you more than one verse that tells you not to kill yourself.
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Points: 29 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 October 2005 at 5:00pm
Originally posted by Deus Deus wrote:

Originally posted by mankind mankind wrote:

isnt cigz intoxicant in a way how cum that is not haram?


Cigarettes are haram too.


By the way, cigarettes are not intoxicants. They are toxic, but that's not the same as intoxicant. The fact that they're toxic and addictive makes them unacceptable in Islam.



sry man..ur wrong cigz r not Haram..u myt refer to them as mekruh...(not liked)..
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