The believer without a book

Salams to all,

Quoting trueth searcher

"Abraham set a good example before the divisions.I sometimes wonder if I should follow his example instead of listening to man.Because you cannot trust man"

It is true, Prophet Ibrahim was an excellent example, as stated in the Quran. You have hit on a point which many of our muslim brothers and sisters are facing right now. To use an analogy that is often used here in the US, you see the glass as either half empty or half full. Some people look at forums such as this and only see people arguing and fighting to gain some advantage over the other or to prove that they are right and the other person is wrong. I don't see it that way. I shouldn't say that exactly. I see some people doing that, but I believe that most people on this forum are just like you, seeking truth by asking questions and engaging in discussions with others who do not agree with them.

It is true that there are many untrustworthy people in the world, but the religion of Islam only asks you to trust The Prophet, and those whom the Prophet(p.b.u.h) has designated as being worthy of trust. There is one hadith, that is narrated by most narrators (both Shia and Sunni). If you follow it you will never need anything else. It is the Hadith of Thalqayin, RasoullAllah (p.b.u.h) say, (English translation)

http://www.al-islam.org/thaqalayn/nontl/Preface.htm

The Prophet and the Ahl Al Bait are the trustees of the religion of Ibrahim. Salams

Salam ala kum to all

To : Community and Onegamemaybe2,

With all due respect, your comments do not seem to be appropriate for this forum, as it is titled "Intrafaith Dialogue". The purpose of this particular forum, according to my understanding, is to have a discussion centered around the differences within Islam. Since neither of your comments seem to be based on intra-Muslim issues my humble suggestions is that you find a forum that is more appropriate to your level of discussion.

On a side note, I was a Christian that was blessed by Allah (s.w.a.) to be guided to the true religion of the prophet Isa (Jesus Christ), which is Islam. I say to my Christian brothers and sisters that when you say "Got Jesus!" to a Muslim, it is offensive on two levels.

In the first place, the implication of this statement is that Jesus Christ is a trademark which is owned by Chrisitians. This is incorrect. Jesus Christ was NOT a Chrisitian (as you know), nor did he found the religion of Chrisitianity. When I say Jesus was a Muslim, I do not mean that he prayed the Muslim prayer 5 times a day, fasted during Ramadan, etc (which he did not do, he practiced Judaism), rather, that he submitted (the meaning of Islam) to the one Lord, Creator and Sustainer of himself and everything else.

The second reason is that you are implying that we, as Muslims, are "lost and condemned" (as a Christian brother once told me). The reason for being offended by this should be obvious.

Please do not take offenese to this, as my intention is not to discourage you from participating in this ongoing discussion. I simply feel that you line and level of discourse would be more appropriate for another forum (such as Interfaith Dialogue). You may find in that area participants who are more eager to have a deep discussion with you.

Salam

See thats what is wrong with people like that ,they have have one track mind and speak from there heads and not there hearts.Proven right there,it is so unfortunate for the good islamic people on this website to have to read that,becuase for the most part I have learned something and saw that there are kind and gentle muslims,but its muslims like you that give them the reputation that some question.I hope you can see that.

Bismillah,

Are we going to allow someone to say:  Got Jesus, on our Islaamic website?  I would rather not read that here.  I have to hear and see it all over the place, and I am annoyed with it.

One of the most beautiful names of Allah, SWT, is Love.  And Allah loved the world so much that Allah, who is neither male nor female, required no pagan human blood sacrifices in order to forgive our sins and guide us to the right path.

Edited by herjihad