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Buddymann read the forum description and stick to the forum guidlines.

    Rami,

How am I not following the forum guidelines?

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Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

Jesus said beware of those who speak in my name, the first person to speak in jesus's name while having never met him  [ie transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ] or known his teachings was paul yet when you look at the bible and christianity today he is the key figure whose teachings are followed even more so than jesus himself.

Had his words been taken out of the bible you would see a different Christianity than the one you have today.

Unlike paul the Prophet muhammad [sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam] did not speak in the name of Jesus or with his authority he was a prophet in his own right with his own book of revelations, the community he was sent amongst where not Christians so Jesus warning his followers about false prophets after can not apply to him since islam did not primarily spread to Christian areas until after the prophets time.

look also at religion prior to Christianity, all faiths and all prophets had been monotheistic for thousands of years there message of one god had been the same, then some 300 years after the death of christ out of nowhere the doctrine of the trinity is invented [as it is not explicitly mentioned anywhere in the bible] and then forced onto the wrold.

Buddymann read the forum description and stick to the forum guidlines.



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Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.
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King Davids Psalms 22 - written over 1500 years BC. This is a prophecy of Jesus's crucifiction.

Psalm 22

A Cry of Anguish and a Song of Praise.
For the choir director; upon Aijeleth[a] Hashshahar. A Psalm of David.

    1(A)My God, my God, why have You forsaken me?
         (B)Far from my deliverance are the words of my (C)groaning.
    2O my God, I (D)cry by day, but You do not answer;
         And by night, but I have no rest.
    3Yet (E)You are holy,
         O You who are enthroned upon (F)the praises of Israel.
    4In You our fathers (G)trusted;
         They trusted and You (H)delivered them.
    5To You they cried out and were delivered;
         (I)In You they trusted and were not disappointed.
    6But I am a (J)worm and not a man,
         A (K)reproach of men and (L)despised by the people.
    7All who see me (M)sneer at me;
         They [b]separate with the lip, they (N)wag the head, saying,
    8"[c]Commit yourself to the LORD; (O)let Him deliver him;
         Let Him rescue him, because He delights in him."
    9Yet You are He who (P)brought me forth from the womb;
         You made me trust when upon my mother's breasts.
    10Upon You I was cast (Q)from birth;
         You have been my God from my mother's womb.
    11(R)Be not far from me, for trouble is near;
         For there is (S)none to help.
    12Many (T)bulls have surrounded me;
         Strong bulls of (U)Bashan have encircled me.
    13They (V)open wide their mouth at me,
         As a ravening and a roaring (W)lion.
    14I am (X)poured out like water,
         And all my (Y)bones are out of joint;
         My (Z)heart is like wax;
         It is melted within me.
    15My (AA)strength is dried up like a potsherd,
         And (AB)my tongue cleaves to my jaws;
         And You (AC)lay me in the dust of death.
    16For (AD)dogs have surrounded me;
         A band of evildoers has encompassed me;
         They (AE)pierced my hands and my feet.
    17I can count all my bones.
         (AF)They look, they stare at me;
    18They (AG)divide my garments among them,
         And for my clothing they cast lots.
    19But You, O LORD, (AH)be not far off;
         O You my help, (AI)hasten to my assistance.
    20Deliver my soul from (AJ)the sword,
         My (AK)only life from the power of the dog.
    21Save me from the (AL)lion's mouth;
         From the horns of the (AM)wild oxen You (AN)answer me.
    22I will (AO)tell of Your name to my brethren;
         In the midst of the assembly I will praise You.
    23(AP)You who fear the LORD, praise Him;
         All you descendants of Jacob, (AQ)glorify Him,
         And (AR)stand in awe of Him, all you descendants of Israel.
    24For He has (AS)not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted;
         Nor has He (AT)hidden His face from him;
         But (AU)when he cried to Him for help, He heard.
    25From You comes (AV)my praise in the great assembly;
         I shall (AW)pay my vows before those who fear Him.
    26The [d]afflicted will eat and (AX)be satisfied;
         Those who seek Him will (AY)praise the LORD
         Let your (AZ)heart live forever!
    27All the (BA)ends of the earth will remember and turn to the LORD,
         And all the (BB)families of the nations will worship before You.
    28For the (BC)kingdom is the LORD'S
         And He (BD)rules over the nations.
    29All the (BE)prosperous of the earth will eat and worship,
         All those who (BF)go down to the dust will bow before Him,
         Even he who (BG)cannot keep his soul alive.
    30(BH)Posterity will serve Him;
         It will be told of the Lord to (BI)the coming generation.
    31They will come and (BJ)will declare His righteousness
         To a people (BK)who will be born, that He has performed it.

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Key Text
"Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors." Isaiah 53:12

Fulfillment
"Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots." Luke 23:34
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Key Text
"Thus saith God the Lord, He that created the heavens, and stretched them out; He that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; He that giveth breath unto the people upon it, And spirit to them that walk therein:

I the Lord have called Thee in righteousness, And will hold Thine hand, And will keep Thee, and give Thee for a covenant of the people, For a light of the Gentiles;

To open the blind eyes, To bring out the prisoners from the prison,
And them that sit in darkness out of the prison house." Isaiah 42:5-7


Fulfillment
Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and show John again those things which ye do hear and see:

The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them. Matthew 11:4-5

Prophecy
"Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the avenger." Psalms 8:2

Fulfillment
"And when the chief priests and scribes saw the wonderful things that he did, and the children crying in the temple, and saying, Hosanna to the son of David; they were sore displeased,

And said unto him, Hearest thou what these say? And Jesus saith unto them, Yea; have ye never read, Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings thou hast perfected praise?" Matthew 21:15-16

Prophecy
"Yea, all kings shall fall down before him: all nations shall serve him." Psalms 72:11

Fulfillment
"Then Herod, when he had privily called the wise men, inquired of them diligently what time the star appeared. And he sent them to Bethlehem, and said, Go and search diligently for the young child; and when ye have found him, bring me word again, that I may come and worship him also.
When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was.

When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy.
And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh. " Matthew 2:7-11

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Prophecy
"Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts." Malachi 3:1

Fulfillment
And when the messengers of John were departed, he began to speak unto the people concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness for to see? A reed shaken with the wind? But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? Behold, they which are gorgeously apparelled, and live delicately, are in kings' courts.

But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? Yea, I say unto you, and much more than a prophet. This is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.

And all the people that heard him, and the publicans, justified God, being baptized with the baptism of John. But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him.
Luke 7:24-30

Prophecy
"Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows." Psalms 45:7

"And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;" Isaiah 11:2

"The spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;" Isaiah 61:1

Fulfillment
"And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." Matthew 3:16-17

Prophecy
"Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times." Daniel 9:25

Fulfillment
"Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,

And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel." Mark 1:14-15

"Now in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being governor of Judaea, and Herod being tetrarch of Galilee, and his brother Philip tetrarch of Ituraea and of the region of Trachonitis, and Lysanias the tetrarch of Abilene,

Annas and Caiaphas being the high priests, the word of God came unto John the son of Zacharias in the wilderness.

And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;" Luke 3:1-3

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Mohammad (PBUH) is prophysized in the Bible

Mohammad (PBUH) is prophysized in the Torah

there is no reason for me not to be a Muslim.

 

No offense, but this is false...Mohammed is not prophesied in the Torah or Bible...

The Bible by the way is a Greek translation which means many books. Jesus is the only Messiah.

Prophecy
"Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." Isaiah 7:14

Fulfillment
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily. But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Prophecy
"Now gather thyself in troops, O daughter of troops: he hath laid siege against us: they shall smite the judge of Israel with a rod upon the cheek.

But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting." Micah 5:1-2

Fulfillment
Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem, Matthew 2:1

Prophecy
"Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse." Malachi 4:5-6

Fulfillment
"Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.

He that hath ears to hear, let him hear." Matthew 11:11-15

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as angela said not a single christian in the world disproved the prophethood of Mohammad (PBUH). there were many false prophet at the time of Mohammad (PBUH) but they failed.

so Jesus might indicated those false prophet not the Mohammad (PBUH).

As Angela said who believes that the old testment or new testment are the words of God.?

these books were written by the apostles many centuries after Jesus (PBUH). do you call that the words of God? well i dont think so.

there are many errors in the Bible does God makes error? i dont think so.

Mohammad (PBUH) is prophysiezed in 5 scriptures.

Mohammad (PBUH) is prophysized in the Hindu Scriptures

Mohammad (PBUH) is prophysized in the Parsi Scriptures

Mohammad (PBUH) is prophysized in the Budhist Scriptures.

Mohammad (PBUH) is prophysized in the Bible

Mohammad (PBUH) is prophysized in the Torah

there is no reason for me not to be a Muslim.

If you want to read all these prophesies then please read it in my posts.

Your borher in Islam Khairullah.

 

 

 

1:"The TRUTH stands out clear from error"2:256

2:"When comes the Help of God, and Victory And thou dost see the people enter God's Religion (ISLAM) in crowds".110:01-2.
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