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najamsahar
Senior Member Joined: 21 June 2006 Location: Saudi Arabia Status: Offline Points: 151 |
Posted: 18 August 2006 at 2:36am | ||
Andalus: Wsalaam You are speaking about the exceptions,these people who mix and pray with Sunnis. For a person to be Shia, he/she follows a set of beliefs that are in many ways contrary to the Sunni belief. I am speaking about Shias in general, what they believe and practise in. And what makes them a shia. When you say that you meet and mix with people who are Shia, do you also know that in the US, (I know only about Virginia and New York), Shias have their own mosques, they even have their own community centres where the kids go to their own sunday schools. However, I do understand the kind of people you must know. I also know some Shias who, through the internet and other sources, have read up a lot about Islam and they realise that the religion they follow has serious flaws. Many of the generations before them really believed that the goats or something else ate up the Quran pages and that the revelation was in fact meant for Hazrat Ali RA and that grave injustices have been done to the family of Fatima RA at the hand of the rightly guided Caliphs. Now the the opne minded and educated people of the present generations (who heard all these goat stories while growing up) especially in the US, have changed their ways of thinking and some have embraced Sunnism as the right path, alhamdulillah. Again, these are exceptions! Some more of these, know that they are wrong but then do not make a declaration of being Sunni because of family/community pressures. The brother who started this discussion meant to ask about the Shia faith and shi'ite people, not exceptions. -Najamsahar
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Andalus
Moderator Group Joined: 12 October 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1187 |
Posted: 17 August 2006 at 10:53pm | ||
Assalam Aleikum!
Of course I did not give an official Shi'ite written statement of official beliefs. There are places where Sunnis and Shi'ites have serious odds, and they prefer to pray behind their own Imam. I know that here in the US, I have been to places where Shi'ites and Sunnis pray mixed in congregation, and there is no problem. I have also been in group dhikr where we were mixed.
As I said, I cannot speak for every Shia. I can only speak about my experiences which has lead me to see that I cannot generalize all of them, although I do consider them to be in great error. And they think the same of me.
That someone might have a greater value for the clay because of the place the clay comes from does not take away from the belief that many Shia feel there is some connection between the clay of the earth and the Muslim. Thats what I understand. Allahu a'lim |
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A feeling of discouragement when you slip up is a sure sign that you put your faith in deeds. -Ibn 'Ata'llah
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mariyah
Senior Member Joined: 29 March 2006 Status: Offline Points: 1283 |
Posted: 16 August 2006 at 12:40pm | ||
BaaaaH! Sheep Dip? Is there a website called www.askagoat.com? If you click on that link I'll laugh!
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najamsahar
Senior Member Joined: 21 June 2006 Location: Saudi Arabia Status: Offline Points: 151 |
Posted: 16 August 2006 at 10:56am | ||
Assalam Aleikum. I am not an expert about the Shi'ite path or experience. But I will say that I know numerous Shi'ites who mix with Sunnis at a local moque and they believe the Quran is complete and there is no mistake. Some pray with the clay tablet as a way of allowing the forehead to touch the earth, rather than, what could be a dirty floor. Allahu a'lim ------------------------------------------------- ------ Andalus: You are telling me something i did not know. From what I know, even in the masjid alHaram, they leave right before the congregational prayer. Also I know a family who is Shia and they do not pray behind a Sunni Imam. Also the clay tablet to many shias signifies the earth of karbala. If one has a prayer mat, why keep a piece of clay over it? -Najamsahar |
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ak_m_f
Senior Member Joined: 15 October 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3272 |
Posted: 16 August 2006 at 9:27am | ||
can goat eat paper? |
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BMZ
Moderator Group Joined: 03 April 2006 Status: Offline Points: 1852 |
Posted: 16 August 2006 at 9:14am | ||
Shias read and recite exactly the same Qur'aan that all Muslims have, regardless of how many chapters "the goats" chewed.
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Andalus
Moderator Group Joined: 12 October 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1187 |
Posted: 16 August 2006 at 7:49am | ||
Assalam Aleikum. I am not an expert about the Shi'ite path or experience. But I will say that I know numerous Shi'ites who mix with Sunnis at a local moque and they believe the Quran is complete and there is no mistake. Some pray with the clay tablet as a way of allowing the forehead to touch the earth, rather than, what could be a dirty floor. Allahu a'lim |
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A feeling of discouragement when you slip up is a sure sign that you put your faith in deeds. -Ibn 'Ata'llah
http://www.sunnipath.com http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/ http://www.pt-go.com/ |
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najamsahar
Senior Member Joined: 21 June 2006 Location: Saudi Arabia Status: Offline Points: 151 |
Posted: 16 August 2006 at 7:13am | ||
Shia people on the other hand are an extremely united community. They also have the complete respect for the people in authority. See the ayatollah regimes, these were based mainly on faith the people had in the ayatollah, unlike some regimes in the sunni world like saddam hussien that were based on fear and intimidation. |
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