The Real Purpose of Education

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Education---like democracy, free markets, freedom of the press, and "universal human rights" --- is one of those subjects whose virtue is considered self-evident. So is the superiority of the industrially advanced countries in attaining them. Consequently, any package that arrives with one of these magic labels on it, automatically qualifies for the "green channel" at the entry ports of developing countries. No questions asked. This uncritical acceptance has severely crippled their discussion of all these vital topics. For example in education the discussion remains centered around literacy rates and graduation statistics. The central issue of curriculum, and even more fundamental issue of the purpose of education normally do not attract attention; they have already been decided by the "advanced" countries and the job of the rest of the world is only to follow in their footsteps to achieve their level of progress. 

In the "first" world, education has become an extension of the capitalist system. Its purpose is to provide qualified workforce for its machinery of production and eager consumers for its products. 

This linking of education to financial goals is extremely unfortunate. It degrades education and through it the society. 

To bring home the forgotten role of education we need to recall that there is a fundamental difference between human beings and animals. Instincts and physical needs alone can bring ants, bees, or herds of beasts together to live in a perfectly functioning animal society. Human beings do not function that way. If they are to form a viable, thriving society, they must choose to do so. What drives that choice is the sharing of common goals, beliefs, values and outlook on life. The education system of a society produces the citizens and leaders needed for the smooth operation of that society, now and into the future. Its state of health or sickness translates directly into the health or sickness of the society that it is meant to serve. 

Today we find many internal problems --- corruption, injustice, oppression, crippling poverty --- everywhere we turn in the Muslim world.  These problems are largely traceable, directly or indirectly, to the education system that produced the people who perpetuate the problems. The rulers who sell out to foreign powers and subjugate their people; the bureaucrats who enforce laws based on injustice; the generals who wage war against their own people; the businessmen who exploit and cheat; the journalists who lie, sensationalize, and promote indecencies, they are all educated people, in many cases "highly" educated people. The problem plagues all layers of society. Muslim societies are sick because their education system is sick.

Before they began blindly importing from the Colonial powers what was current and popular, education in Muslim societies was always the means of nurturing the human being. Moral training, tarbiya, was always an inalienable part of it. The ustaz, (teacher), was not just a lecturer or mere professional, but a mentor and moral guide. We remembered the hadith then, "No father has given a greater gift to his children than good moral training." [Tirmidhi]. Our education system was informed by this hadith. Our darul-ulooms (Centers of Learning) still maintain that tradition but the number of students who pass through their gates is minuscule compared to the secular schools.

In the U.S. and Europe, the schools were started by the church. Later as forces of capitalism overtook them, they molded them into their image. Moral training was a casualty of that takeover. But capitalism and their political economy did need people trained to work under these systems. So citizenship training was retained as an important, though diminishing, component of the curriculum--- a religion-free subset of the moral training it displaced. Whatever civility we see here is largely a result of that leftover component. The imported versions in the Muslim countries, though, had even that component filtered out. And the results are visible. 

We can solve our problem once we realize our mistakes. The first purpose of our education system must be to produce qualified citizens and leaders for the Islamic society. Tarbiya, real Islamic moral training, must be an integral part of it. This must be the soul of our education, not a ceremonial husk. All plans for improving our education will be totally useless unless they are based on a full understanding of this key fact. This requires revamping our curricula, rewriting our textbooks, retraining our teachers, and realizing that we must do all this ourselves. We do have a rich history of doing it. Are we finally willing to turn to our own in-house treasures to redo education the way it should always have been?

Source: Albalagh


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Older Comments:
JANET BRADEN FROM USA said:
That is a sad thing that religion is separated in Muslim countries too. In the usa our our schools are partially funded by the federal government, I think. And I understand that the u.s. constitution has instructed that there be a 'separation of church and state.' The reason that that has not been amended and is a constant conflict here is because we now have more religions in this country, than just Christianity. But, I agree with this article - that moral training should be a part of school training, because it morality taught at home is just undone when children go out to school and become influenced by other students who were/are not trained in morality at home. Thank you.
2002-11-10

KARIEM ABDUL HAQQ FROM USA said:
you seem to speak of the capitalist system in a derrogatory manner. What is called a 'capitalist' system in the west is a misnomer for "free market" system of economics. A "free market" system is 'free trade', as long as there is no coercion, fraud, etc. But capitalism (expecially today) is not 'free market' economics. Capitalism today is a mixture of 'free market/trade' and 'socialism'. The 'free market' is good but the socialism is bad. It is the socialism that brings about the corruption and poverty in the economy, which spreads in other areas of society.
2002-11-04

ANEESA ABDULLAH FROM USA said:

As a teacher you have inspired me to focus on what is important and true, that morals and manners are the foundation of survial in our society as far as education is concern.
2002-11-02

M. HOMESCH FROM USA said:
I disagree on 2 points: 1st moral training was not a casualty of western education, It was purposefully removed. "Charater training" was later implimented. 2nd Western/ industrial education was designed to create "worker bees". The schools are doing an excellent job of creating workers and consumers, exectly what a consumer based society needs. Schools were designed to created good citizens, where everyone is the same and wants the same thing. Its called "Keeping up with the Jones'" There are very few people who are trained to be leaders, or business owners. (Read John Taylor Gotto) This is why the "home schooling" movement started in the USA, and it was started by those of no religious affiliations. Home education is now growing by 15% a year in the US.
2002-11-01

ADAMU IBRAHIM MUHAMMAD FROM NIGERIA said:
That final question was well asked and the general answer is Yes! But how do we do this in the present circumstances when our governments try to defend the Western curricula you mentioned with everything at their disposal. To the extent that they starved our own private schools (Islamiyyah) of funds and moral backing.

It is expedient that the situation changes. And the only way I forsee this happening is to go back to the homes and the grassroots and begin there. We look at the progress the Islamic brotherhood is recording in Egypt. We, Muslims should start to think of change now or it will be too late!

As I always say Allah does not need us but we need him so therefore it is not just to leave everything to him but rather we must decide we want to change then He shows us how and give us the means. But if we become hypocritical, as always, in any way, He may do it his way and we know the consequence, in fact we are beginning to percieve this already!

The example of the thamud and the Ad people is there for us to ponder. Somebody would say but these people reject the message entirely or rather that Allah has promised not to do same untill the promised day! Brother! I say that we are more than them (Q4:150-151) and Allah has promised to change people if they change themselves!
2002-11-01

ALTAMASH MOHYUDDIN FROM USA said:
As salaamu 'Alaikum
I have not read such a wonderfully insightful article in a long time. It is due time that we write our own history starting with the ink of our own past. May Allah be pleased with your efforts and may this concern be heard insha Allah. It delights my heart to see responible journalism.. the likes of which I only seem to find on Islamicity.com! JazaakAllahu Khair... was salaam ma'al ikraam.
2002-10-31

MUHAMMAD REHMAN FROM U.S.A said:
I read your sending article.really this is based on facts.We need to reform ourselves in this respect.We should become an embodiment of righteousness.Then we will have the right to convince anyoneelse.It will not be wrong to say that we are far from unity,faith and descipline.
The literacy rate is very low in muslim countries.The prophet Muhammad(PBUH)laid much stress on getting knowledge.Why we have forgotten this Hadith.We should initiate the self accountability by ourselves if we want to attain a respectable status in the world.
2002-10-31

NOUR FROM LEBANON said:
I agree
2002-10-30

ASADULLAH FROM AFGHANISTAN said:
THE REAL PURPOSE OF EDUCATION is a phenomenal article. I totally agree with everything it states.

Assalam O Alaikum
2002-10-30

SISTER KAMILAH FROM UNITED STATES said:
AS-SALAAMU ALAIKUM, DEAREST MUSLIMS, MANY TIMES WE TEND TO GET" CAUGHT UP" IN THE WORLDLY PLEASURES OF THIS LIFE. WE FORGET THAT WE WERE CREATED TO SERVE ALLAH ONLY. WE ALSO FORGET TO TEACH OUR CHILDREN MORALS AND MANNERS OF OUR BELOVED PROPHET MUHAMMAD (SAAS). LET US BEGIN TO REMEMBER, ESPECIALLY WHE WE READ AN EXCELLENT ARTICLE SUCH AS THIS! ALHAMDULILLAH!
2002-10-30

BEN J. BLOOMGREN FROM USA said:
I am not a Muslim. I am an American Christian, but I agree with many of the points in the article by Mr. Al-Baig. I must also add one other point. We must address rulers that say that they have a direct link to God. God puts them in power, and he rules through them, but he does not do as he did with Moses. The king rules through God-given authority.
Sincerely,
Ben J. Bloomgren
2002-10-30

FATIMA THOMPSON FROM USA said:
Assalamu Aleikum
This is a very good article. I agree. I have read from a secular source regarding education and society that, for about the last 300 years, education has been designed to meet the objectives of the government (or rulers). For the United States and much of the western world, that purpose has been defined as 'economic viability' and not the moral formation of the individual or society. This means that we as parents and religious educators need to dedicate ourselves to teaching our children and our brothers and sisters the correct understanding and practice of Islam.
Sincerely,
Fatima Thompson
Wappingers Falls, NY
Assalamu Aleikum
2002-10-30

ANNET MAHANANI FROM INDONESIA said:
Interesting. But why are the "problems --- corruption, injustice, oppression, crippling poverty --- " found in the Muslim world, do not present in the highly-advanced educated countries of the West -- at least not in the magnitude of those in the Muslim world? (If "These problems are largely traceable, directly or indirectly, to the education system that produced the people who perpetuate the problems -- they are all educated people in Muslim societies who blindly imported western education system")
2002-10-29

SAHEED ADEMOLA ISHAQ FROM NIGERIA said:
I am very happy to see your article about knowledge.Allah.Why you refused my request.I want you to send booklet to me.
2002-10-29

ISMAIL FROM SOUTH AFRICA said:
yes i agree.but there is another dimension.western education is centered around personal enrichment and accumulation of wealth and status.islamic education is more forcused towards serving humanity.even islamic schools today are nor really different from western schools.in south africa muslim schools are mainly for the rich, thereby excluding the majority of muslims.
2002-10-29

ISMAIL FROM SOUTH AFRICA said:
yes i agree.but there is another dimension.western education is centered around personal enrichment and accumulation of wealth and status.islamic education is more forcused towards serving humanity.even islamic schools today are nor really different from western schools.in south africa muslim schools are mainly for the rich, thereby excluding the majority of muslims.
2002-10-29

SHAKIR EBRAHIM FROM INDIA said:
Mr. Khalid Baig critisizes the Western Education System, without offering an alternative...that is unfair criticism. If he cannot define an alternative, he has no right to criticize.
2002-10-29

KAMRAN FROM ENGLAND said:
WOW! Finally it seems someone is adressing
fundamental problems and looking at them in
a positive pro-action view point. Allhumtolillah.
We must look to the great Islamic empires of
the past era and how they managed to lead
the world in all fields of education and society,
take lessons and advice and then impliment
them. Thankyou for finally putting these ideas
on paper and making them accessible to the
poeple of the world.
2002-10-29

RIZWAN MAJEED FROM PAKISTAN said:
Dear Khalid Baig,

You are absolutely right that we are producing sick Muslims as the education system we are following is sick. Let me add one thing more in it that Pakistan was divided into two parts not by the uneducated people but highly intellectual (so called) and educated people. So, our education system is producing morally sick persons. One gets more dangerous, for both of his own country and people, as he becames highly educated.
Now what would you suggest for this dilemma of Muslim countries? Is there any solution? I am not talking about a single person rather I am worried about the whole umma. Because no body is ready to think and take action in this regard. How could we participate to overcome it except in one way that we on our own behalf must be honest.
Any ways, thank you for giving such a good thinking about Muslims current dilemma.

Regards,
Rizwan.
2002-10-29

M S MOHAMMED THAMEEZUDDEEN FROM SINGAPORE said:
Today, everybody hates Islam and Muslims. Take Hindus in India, Christians and Jews around the world, Buddhists in China, Japan and South East Asia - they all hate Islam and Muslims. Why?

I am from Manufacturing Engineering background and I always remember the following incident whenever I analyze an issue.

Often the first answer to a problem is not the root cause. Asking "Why" a number of times will identify several causes. This is much more likely to indicate the root cause. Following is the example given by a former Toyota Vice President Taiichi Ohno into the cause of the machine stoppage.

Q1: Why did the machine stop?
A1: Because the fuse blew due to an overload.
Q2: Why was there an overload?
A2: Because the bearing lubrication was inadequate.
Q3: Why was the lubrication inadequate?
A3: Because the lubrication pump was not working right.
Q4: Why was the lubrication pump not working right?
A4: Because the axle was worn out.
Q5: Why was it worn out?
A5: Because sludge got in.

By repeating "Why" five times, it was possible to identify the real cause and hence the real solution: attaching a strainer to the lubricating pump. If the workers had not gone through such repetitive questions, they might have settled with an intermediate counter measure, such as replacing the fuse.

What you do is synonymous with just that of changing the fuse in the above incident.

Do you want to go up to the root cause of Islam and Muslims facing today and find a solution, please let me know your intention. Let us work together.

Wassalam

M S Mohammed
2002-10-29

KAUSAR RAFEEQ FROM SAUDI ARABIA said:
Yes we must do it ourelves.
2002-10-29

AISHA FROM CANADA said:
Al salaamu alaikum,

Masha'Allah, I agree with the brother and now that we recognize our mistake, we have to fix it and make Tarbyia an intrinsic part of our children's education. But how do we get from point A to point B if we ourselves have not been educated under such a system? To create Islamic schools in the west with North-American trained muslims or to bring in teachers from "muslim" countries who were educated in a system adapted from the Western, capitalist one is not the solution. But what is? How do we first educate ourseleves and then learn to teach Tarbia?
Jazakum Allahu khairan,
Aisha
2002-10-29

ZILZAAL AZZIZI FROM WASHINGTON, DC/USA said:
Editor/Islamicity:

Khalid Baig Al balagh's, "the Real Purpose of Education," is a credible but weak commentary on the poor and decrepit state of the educational system in Muslim countries.

I disagree with his instinctive bias and prejudice against the 'educational system' of the West. Albalagh is still living in the ancient past...!

He correctly identified many causes of public mismanagement in Muslim lands, traceable to tyrant leadership, corruption, injustice, oppression, greed, bankrupt morality, and perpetual poverty. But he placed the blame for all of these societal ills squarely at the feet of the backward educational system in these lands. This is only a half true.

Many Muslim countries, until lately, continue to follow the ancient 'madrassa' system as the mainstay of their educational standards, which is primarily responsible for the massive illiteracy and intellectual backwardness of Muslim peoples.

Those Muslims, leaders, skilled technicians, professionals in the sciences, and all other trained laymen, who are considered to be truly educated, in most instances, have been schooled and tutored in the West, where education as a system of transmitting knowledge and vocational proficiency---practical, technical and scientific, has been established in a pedagogical hierarchy that is open, transparent, rational, and logical.

To cast aspersion on such a system, however imperfect it may be, is to expose a mind that is warped and demented.

Finally, to suggest that "we can solve our problem once we realize our mistakes" is a prescription built on sand. Muslims have been suffering from a severe case of scholastic deficit for some 400 to 500 hundred years, when the orthodox `Ulamaa' decreed that the door to all knowledge has been closed, based on the dreaded doctrine of taqlid.

As nations of people, we must learn from those (in other lands) who have triumphed in education--while remaining true to our traditions and teachi
2002-10-28

SHAHID LATEEF FROM USA said:
Mashallah!!! That was wonderful. I enjoyed reading your article. It says everything in a very well eloquent style and goes straight to the point. I love reading articles from Islamicity.com. May Allah bless all of you and help you to continue doing what you do best. In this case da'wah inshallah.
2002-10-28

AHMED NAZEER FROM SULTANATE OF OMAN said:
Your article on education brings out in earnest the weakness,and the shortfalls in the education in Muslim societies and countries.Your analysis
of the situation is correct and your thought and
concern are quite ethical ! But,all this good
thought would remain idealistic and monumental,
till Muslims have their absolute freedom and say
in their own countries,till they can get rid of
their leaders who have sold themselves to advanced
industrial powers,till they can come up with their
own industry based on their own indigenous and
pure technology and ethical education,strong
enough to beat the industry of the west,till they
have their own and universally acceptable economic
system which can defeat the capitalism and consum-
erism of the west.The question is when all this
will happen ? Such a radical change requires a
revolution ! nothing short of it ! when will that
happen ? what steps have been taken in that direc-
tion ? Are there any models and examples on which
to pin our hopes ? Has it anytime been successful?
Where is the road map? where is the blue print ?
I appreciate your effort but you must also come
up with the solution to the problem,and mind you,
not utopian but practical!You will do a great service to Islam and Muslims if you show us the
practical and effective Islamic industrial and
technological strategy to defeat Industry and the
capitalism of west which affects us so badly !
To begin with please show the Muslims the Islamic
way to remove the " Bad Dictator"-Saddam Hussain!
And when will that be ? Before or after the Muslim
Ummah acquires Tarbiyah ? !
2002-10-28

PETER JEFFERIES FROM US said:
The Islamic schools are teaching hatrid and a narrow view of the world.

Perhaps in the US we should turn our educational system over the religious right, than in a few years, together we can incinerate the world.

You point to external causes for the demise of the Islamic world, when the primary cause is that which you exspouse, your narrow scope on education.

Open the minds of your youth instead of closing them.

2002-10-28

ALLY FROM UK said:
Very good points. But first we must decrease our dependent on the West. How can we achieve this if we do not have proper educational and financial institutions for muslims.How many Islamic Bank are there in Europe. How many Islamic University are there.Whenever I go to the mosque I listen to the Imaam talking about interests. When asked about the alternative there is no answer. He himself put his money in The Big Four Bank in this country. A lot of people are coming from abroad to the Uk to live off its benefit at the expense of those who work. A lot of them are muslims. So what are we going to do.
2002-10-28

HODA AMINE PHD FROM USA said:
I do agree with you on the recommendation to change the educational system, though, we need to start changing our soul first, we need to have faith in ourselves,in our religion and believe that only in numbers we can speak. I see many Muslims here in USA trying so hard to be accepted in the American society, yet they don't have no faith in themselves or their moral values. The first institution to change society is HOME!!! Families here are trying to conform into the US culture without believing and practicing their own. Fear dominates their lives. This passes on to their children. How can one be strong if the foundation is weak?
2002-10-28

RABIA said:
This is true that the quality must improve. Important thing is to do it. We should all ocme together and do it? How?
2002-10-28

SIDDIQUE FROM AUSTRALIA said:
Understanding the Quran will take patience and perservance as Travis Wisdom will find if he is to persist with reading the Quran. This is my experience with the Quran after reading it for many years and I have come to realise that it is the eternal truth. The Quran is not for those looking for instant gratification and for whom their aim is to seek this are not sincere seekers of truth. I am not implying that Travis falls into this category but should heed this warning.

Perhaps Travis could obtain a translation of the Quran by A. Yusuf Ali which I found easier to understand because of numerous footnotes given to explain the verses
2002-10-28

MIRZA NASRULLAH BAIG FROM SAUDI ARABIA said:
I fully agree with you. But is there any programme to put into practice this?
2002-10-28

HAJAR FROM US said:
*sigh* Yet another article that bemoans the fate of education without looking at the practical everyday aspects. Education is not just about ethos. It plays itself out in a day-to-day arena. It is all good and wonderful to tout the "golden era" method, but a truly incisive article would offer more insight about contemporary options with less flowery language and more examples of cases that nowadays are "going right" and asking, can these be models? If so, how? How can we use what we know about the past and what we are expriencing in the present to prepare for the future?

Salams and better luck next time.
2002-10-28

ABDUL KHADER FROM INDIA said:
The article is excellent. The problem started when we separated the worldly education from religious education. In Islam, all ilm is important and acquiring ilm is an important ibadath. But due the separation, those who had religious education had no worldly education and those who acquired worldly education did no have religious education. That resulted in the downfall of ummah. We should remember that we were the leaders in Scientific works when the western world was languishing in dark. But now, our condition is pathetic and the religion is restricted to some rituals instead of being a way of life.
2002-10-28

HAMID KHAN FROM USA said:
Ma'sha Allah, very well written. The author substantiates the critical weakness of the present educational system and tells us how even muslim societies import it to corrupt it. ("waquad khaba man dassaha")
Indian freedom efforts led by Mahatma Gandhi first derived its legitimacy by fueling the spirit of education against subjugation. Gandhi learned a lot by Prophet Muhammad's (SAS) message and brilliant example of doing, and he(Gandhi)said so praising Muhammad(SAS). Even this Islamic Tarbiyah those Muslim leaders of his time could not demonstrate.
So the author is right. First thing first-- you want to change your society change your educational system first. Education is the soul of the of the new civilization.
I like these commentaries. Let the best write the best. Let it be the the bulletin for the rest!

Hamid Khan
2002-10-27

PAUL J THOMAS FROM USA said:
An excellent article! You clearly explain the very reason I took my two sons out of public school to educate them myself. Society has lost those noble goals of education that you so eloquently mentioned in your article. A parent's role is to educate our children not only in the things of the intellect, but the things of the spirit. It's no wonder our culture is so sorely lacking in these essential qualities when the current school system trains students not as individuals, but as corporate automotons, ready to be plugged into the colonial corporate army.
2002-10-27

HUSSEIN MOHAMMED AHMED FROM ETHIOPIA said:
the services you giving helps alot pleace any thing you have do not hasitate to send us
hussein
2002-10-27

TRAVIS WSIDOM FROM UNITED STATES said:
As-salaamu 'alaikum! My name is Travis Wisdom, 14, studying Islam, it's beliefs, its principles, etc. I have been very interested in Islam for, oh, about two years now, and when the twin towers were hit, I knew right then and there, Islam would and is being portrayed as the religion of Satan. I am against that. I do not believe that for one second. Recently, I have received many Islamic resources, haven't read them all, but I will. I started to read the Mushin Khan translation of the Qur'an, and I am very confused, however, this doesn't surprise me, because, as I have been told, the Qur'an will talk about something in one verse, not explain it thoroughly, but will in another verse later on in the book.
I have been, since birth, brought up as a Catholic and I am not fond of it. There are many contradictions between my understanding and morals, and what it preaches. A main problem that I see with a lot of people in Christianity, is that they, not only pray, but worship Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and even some, Mary! This will never be accepted by me, because, I believe that God is one, never born, and no children. He is eternal; never will die, and we as people, are like servants to him, and should worship him and only him. I feel it is ok to pray for Jesus and other religious figures, just not worship. There is a big difference.
So, to get to the point of my letter, do you have any brochures, books, cds, etc., that I can order to help me with my curiosity of Islam? Please respond soon. May Allah be with you always.


Sincerely,



Travis Wisdom
2002-10-27

JALAL UDDIN FROM USA/PAKISTAN said:
Unfortunately, muslims have misplaced their blamed on the west for their own "unfounded intellectual" thought. The problem stems from root learning practiced instead of critical thinking being taught. No wonder there hasn't been any innovation unravelled in the muslim world recently. Stop blaming the west for capitalism or materialism, atleast this brings about innovation and jobs for folks like us!
2002-10-27

LOUBNA NASSER FROM U.S. said:
THE STANDARDS OF EDUCATION IN THE ISLAMIC WORLD HAVE DROPPED DOWN IN THE LAST CENTURY, BECAUSE OF THE INFLUENCE OF THE WEST. EDUCATORS AND EDUCATED INDIVIDUALS IN THE WEST ARE SIMPLY TITLES FOR A NON-EXISTING QUALITY. EDUCATED INDIVIDUALS DO HAVE AN EDUCATED ATTITUDE DEALING WITH THEIR EVERYDAY LIFE. THE HIGHLY EDUCATED PERSONS IN THE WEST ARE STILL AT THE LEVEL OF A FAST FOOD EMPLOYEE. THEY KEEP DEALING WITH THEIR PROBLEMS AT THAT LEVEL NO MATTER HOW MANY DEGREES THEY HAVE EARNED. FRANKLY, CONTINUING AN EDUCATION IN THE WEST IS JUST A SHOW.
2002-10-27

KHADIJAH UMMHASNA FROM UNITED STATES said:
As salaamuAlaikum,

WOW! DID YOU READ MY MIND OR WHAT? I am homeschooler of 3 and I have just received a new curriculum, I hate it. It is non relevant to our needs as homeschoolers and the infromation is abstract. So why "learn" it, because says so. When ever i hear the words curriculum my skin crawls because i know what it really entails BRAiN WASHING. excuse me for my rambling but i know to have a truly functional society knowledge of Islam must come first.EVRYthing else must follow there after so I struggle with state standards and my standards.YA Allah>

as salaamualaikum
khadijah ummhasna
2002-10-27

FARAZ CHOUDHRY FROM UK said:
Don't some states already have this?
2002-10-27

MOHAMAMD FROM USA said:
It is sad that no one e mile me back when I leave a comment, so I know that my e mail is read.

I like to leave a comment, but any one read them ?

thank you

Mohamad
2002-10-27

ARDEN BARBARA BEYER FROM UNITED STATES said:
Your article on "the Real Purpose of Education" is wonderful. I was extremely glad to hear about your interest in 'tarbiya', which is so missing in the standard Western educational system.
Also, can you tell me where and how to obtain the book, "on Striving to be a Muslim." I am an 18 year-old Muslimah and wear Hijab for modesty, but I think that this book, by its title, would be most helpful for me in learning to be a better Muslim.
Thank You Very MUCH!!

Ay-Salam,

Arden Barbara Beyer
[email protected]

2002-10-27

RICK FROM USA said:
i have thought this exact subject thru many times. And i feel your "real purpose of education" is basically on the mark. I do not feel the the seperation of church and state with regards to education is 100% wrong. I do feel there should be some connection to church in schools. Like a morning prayer wouldnt kill anyone if public schools adopted it it as policy. It wouldnt hurt to have a few in depth courses centered on the differant religions, and what makes each one individual. How else are people to understand each of the differant religions. If a course in the USA had covered the basic beliefs of what being a Muslim entails, would the hate that the USA now harbours for all Muslims be as great.
At the same time, i agree there must be a seperation of church and state. Let us remember the witches of Salem. Women killed in many differant ways, just to prove that they wernt witches. All this was done in the name of God by the Catholic church. Now here we are in the USA, giving so called witches there freedom to practice, and i have yet to see any witchcraft take over the world. So these women of Salem were killed uneededly, it would appear to me.
I have to wonder what in the name of religion is being done to Muslims. I think that it is time for the Arab world to wake up, and form that seperation of church and state themselves. Have to remember, that those in state power, would be elected officials, and the masses under the teachings of the church, could vote him/her out of office, if state rule becomes to viscious. There is more to education then just learning new facts, or ways of thinking. There must be the freedom to try things u learn, experiment with them, and learn what works and what doesnt. If a church of Hamsters, see's you praying to a Gerbal, that hampster would be dead meat in a church led world. In a free world, the hampster would pray, and pray, and decide which fur ball does the job better for him.
I am not college educated, but i survive.
2002-10-27

WILLIAM KEIYZ FROM USA said:
Just read the latest bulletin and wanted to say that the words were beautiful and touched me. Thank you for sending out that bulletin. EVERYONE should read it, Christian, Jew, Hindu, whatever, for it explains the problems not only in the Muslim world, but throughout the world. Al salaamu alikum
2002-10-27

NADIR HASAN FROM USA said:
An excellent and very truthful commentary. Let us pray to Allah that we today, start to change our mindsets and inaction in the educational sector and that Allah provide us with his guidance and mercy to be strong and unfettered in our proper approach to
correcting the educational ills many of our leaders may want to change, but just don't have the willpower nor stamina to do so. Also, we should ask Allah to protect us from
those people who institutionally, are harming our educational systems and provide us with fundamentally clear and better ideas for educating our communities.
2002-10-27

L. MILLER FROM U.S.A. said:
This is an excellent and timely article and its appearance on your site was received warmly.

The thesis that the basis of any educational system must be morally based is a very important point. I have seen the public educational system in my country degrade, as it continues to devolve, as it began to seperate its self more and more from its moral foundation.

I observe, as the author of this article pointed out clearly that the public education in this country has become nothing more than a stimulus response training machine to indoctrinate young minds to be (1) team player work force members to keep the machinery of industry going and (2) to produce quality consumers who will be conditioned to confuze needs with wants and spend their lives toiling for the vanity of the material world with no moral training to give any balance in their lives.

Sadly, many of our churches and religious organizations, while generally giving more moral instruction than their public counterparts, have not escaped the cancer of excess materialism and so many of the same pitfalls end up in their schools as well.

Education begins in the home. Parents in all nations of the world must again take the reigns in hand and take responsibility to educated their children in morality and the basic rights and wrongs, the good and the evil themselves and not entrust the seed of the next generation to governments and other organizations. Having received the basic moral training at home from the begining, when a child then enters the educational system outside the home, they will have a solid moral foundation to build upon rather than no foundation at all when they begin their formal education.
2002-10-27

AHMAD ABUL-ELA FROM USA said:
I would like very much to be able to print some of the articles from the Islamicity Bulletin. Can Islamicity provide a printer-friendly button on the Bulletin ? Thank you.
2002-10-27

SAIF FROM ENGLAND said:
Assalamualaikum.

The real purpose of education should be to allow people to ask the question what is the purpose of creation. Not to deny creation and numb peoples innate senses, or mistify them with theories and uncertainties. In the current educational system people gather knoledge to climb on the ladder of material success, and learn that the most ruthless survive. All byproducts to 'theories' such as Evolution and Big Bang which have changed the face of rationality in the human race. The ball is now in the court of the 'rocket scientists'. The ones who had the priviledge to graduate from institutions such as Oxford, Cambridge or Harvard. But then to an evolutionist this was all a product of selective breeding and survival of the fittest. Is there any way for Justice to emerge from such a 'civilization' ?
2002-10-26

PHILLIP RAMSEY FROM UNITED STATES said:
Beloved people of Allah/God
My this find your families and loved ones in peace.
I read this "...In the U.S. and Europe, the schools were started by the church." this is true in the US the church had infulance in the school but The schools were part of the public system, not the religious system.
Education is now a matter of vocational trainning, we have lost our way and this makes us part of the animal kingdom, pray for all of us in this world.
2002-10-26

RABIA SHUAIB FROM PAKISTAN said:
i think this article tells us how the
education system of an islamic state should be like.education should not be linked with financial
gains otherwise it loses its soul n spirit.
when i did inter people used to give money to
get more marks in the practicles.so that they would get admission in medical colleges n become doctors.that is the reason that mostly doctors
are not truly serving the mankind.
wassalam.
2002-10-26

JASON RHOTON FROM USA said:
Asalamu Alaykum education must be trancendent ie based on Quaran and Sunnah, so that our children have a proper base from which to live their lives. To do this we must lead by example our lives must be based in the Quaran and Sunnah as well. Actions always speak louder than words. With the lack of Islamic schools in this country we must also be more aggrsssive in forming home school organazations in our local communities. It is a mistake to think we can send our children to public schools for many reasons which are too numerous to discuss here. However we must insure the proper education of all of our young and old Muslims which takes a tremendous amount of dedication. Which seems to be lacking in more areas of the Muslim world than just education. may Allah complete us all and bring all Muslims together in brother and sisterhood.
2002-10-26