Amnesty condemns stoning to death of Afgh

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   Yes, I agree with you - far too many "legal" deaths in the US are suffered by people who are mentally retarded, innocent and black. I remember reading one case in the early nineties where a black woman, who had been fighting off a white guy who was trying to rape her, stabbed him and he died. She was on death row for DEFENDING herself! If it had been a white woman who had killed a blakc guy I have NO doubt she would have been released. 
Yes, there is hypocrisy (death in the US is "ok", but stoning to death in other countries is not), but then the death sentence is usually for things like murder or multiple murders...which in the West is seen as being a MUCH greater crime than just sleeping with someone.
Kim...

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kim! Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 17 September 2001 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 2390	Post Options Post Reply Quote kim! Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 May 2005 at 1:51am
	Yes, I agree with you - far too many "legal" deaths in the US are suffered by people who are mentally retarded, innocent and black. I remember reading one case in the early nineties where a black woman, who had been fighting off a white guy who was trying to rape her, stabbed him and he died. She was on death row for DEFENDING herself! If it had been a white woman who had killed a blakc guy I have NO doubt she would have been released. Yes, there is hypocrisy (death in the US is "ok", but stoning to death in other countries is not), but then the death sentence is usually for things like murder or multiple murders...which in the West is seen as being a MUCH greater crime than just sleeping with someone. Kim...

Patty Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 14 September 2001 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2382	Post Options Post Reply Quote Patty Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 May 2005 at 5:03pm
	"Yes, there is hypocrisy (death in the US is "ok", but stoning to death in other countries is not), but then the death sentence is usually for things like murder or multiple murders...which in the West is seen as being a MUCH greater crime than just sleeping with someone. *Kim..."* I don't get your analogy here, Kim. You refer to "hypocrisy". Death in the US is *NOT* okay, except for the most hideous and heinous crimes. Adultery, while a grave sin (in my opinion) is not one which causes physical harm to the innocent partner of the one who has committed adultery. It may cause a great loss of trust and psychological damage. The innocent partner may do well to seek counseling; however, it is certainly not something which should result in death to the offender. Whatever happened to forgiveness when the person is truly sorry? In many, many cases the relationship CAN and IS rebuilt following the transgression. On the other hand, once an individual murders another, the murdered person's life is gone forever. The damage cannot be undone. Furthermore, many, but not all, persons who are so vicious that they would kill another human being are psychopaths or sadists, and chances are slim they will ever be anything more. I can forgive any sin, but I could not forget the murder which was committed. "Hate the sin, but love the sinner". And for the protection of the innocents in society, if the murderer has shown good cause that he/she is dangerous and quite likely to murder again, I feel for the good of the society they, in the most serious of cases, should forfeit their own life for the innocent life they took. We have a duty to protect the innocents, our kind and decent brothers and sisters, from sadistic murderers. Also, the punishment should "fit the crime". God's Peace to All, Patty

ansari41 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 08 June 2004 Location: Singapore Status: Offline Points: 27	Post Options Post Reply Quote ansari41 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 May 2005 at 9:26am
	�By-products� of adultery: 1. Heterosexual transmission is the main mode of transmission of HIV accounting for nearly 65.3% of all reported AIDS cases 2. In a document published by the World Health Organization: "Sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) are very common. The most widely known are gonorrhoea, syphilis and AIDS (HIV infection), but there are more than 20 others. According to current WHO estimates, there are more than 333 million new cases of STDs every year throughout the world. About one million new infections occur every day.� 3. The UNAIDS 2004 Report states: "In 2003, almost five million people became newly infected with HIV, the greatest number in any one year since the beginning of the epidemic. At the global level, the number of people living with HIV continues to grow -- from 35 million in 2001 to 38 million in 2003. In the same year, almost three million were killed by AIDS; over 20 million have died since the first cases of AIDS were identified in 1981." 4. The dramatic rise in the incidence of Sexually Transmitted Disease through unsafe sex is listed as one of the top ten health problems of today. 5. Sexually Transmitted Disease is a major cause of sterility affecting up to 40 percent of the population. 6. Sexually Transmitted diseases are the most common diseases in the USA after common cold and flu. It costs the American taxpayer over two billion dollars a year. 7. Thirteen million children have been orphaned by AIDS. SO It is not really a case of �a great loss of trust and psychological damage.� and �The innocent partner may do well to seek counselling.� It has become a frightening global crisis. ABOVE ALL In the earlier revelations � in Torah and Bible, ALLAH has condemned adultery and fornication, and warned us to keep away from them. And in the Final Revelation � the Qur�an, HE has prescribed severe punishment � severe and at the same time exemplary and preventive. It serves as a deterrent to commit adultery or fornication. It will help any member of the society, where such penalty is implemented, to keep as far away as possible from committing the crime. Who else, other than HE, can plan it in such a way! It is understood and accepted by 1.3 billion people in the world. Then, do we have the right to question such punishment?