IRAQ: Farmers in Dire Straights |
Post Reply | Page <12 |
Author | |
Hanan
Senior Member Joined: 27 July 2006 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 1035 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
. Edited by Hanan |
|
Hanan
Senior Member Joined: 27 July 2006 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 1035 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
. Edited by Hanan |
|
ummziba
Senior Member Female Joined: 16 March 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1158 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Assalamu alaikum, Yes, indeed, one of the most beautiful anti-war songs ever! I especially love the last verse: "Now the sun's gone to hell, and the moon's riding high Let me bid you farewell, every man has to die. But it's written in the starlight, and every line on your palm, We're fools to make war on our brothers in arms." *written by Mark Knopfler That song pierces my heart every time I hear it. Peace, ummziba. |
|
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but your words...they break my soul ~
|
|
Hanan
Senior Member Joined: 27 July 2006 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 1035 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
. Edited by Hanan |
|
Angel
Senior Member Joined: 03 July 2001 Status: Offline Points: 6641 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Hanan, I wasn't being lighthearted or callous or insulting, with what i said. I WAS BEING DEADLY SERIOUS!! At least Candid got me Hanan, You got no idea what farmers are facing here where I live, it is very bleak, droughts for years, no water to produce, can't hardly sell, animals dying, produce not producing or poorly, depression, suicides in 1 in 4 male farmers - the hightest group for suicides, not forgetting that Australia provides sheep for iraq and surrounding countries which means less food - do I NEED to go on??! Perhaps you should stop throwing a tantrum every time you see me or someone writing something you seem to have a problem with. Instead of throwing your gibberish, perhaps you could ask me nicely why I said what I did. To be honest with you, I know there are a few differences (as I saw in the article) but on the whole both sets of farmers are no different with their struggle, it is their livelihoods. Edited by Angel |
|
~ Our feet are earthbound, but our hearts and our minds have wings ~
|
|
Duende
Senior Member Joined: 27 July 2005 Status: Offline Points: 651 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Angel, whatever personal gripe you have with Hanan, you should be
able to see the vast difference between the Australian farmer suffering the consequences of severe drought (welcome to Global Warming) and the Iraqi farmer suffering the consequences of an occupying army who seizes civilians, men women and children, holds them without charge, often tortures them (just in case, you never know, one of these sheep herders might turn out to be Bin Laden's driver ...) rapes and kills their daughters ... need I go on? Does an Australian farmer need to sit in fear each night of a terrifying raid? Does an Australian farmer have to worry about his home and livelihood being bombed to smithereens? (just collateral damage, mind you) Does the Iraqi farmer have the support and help of local government, local unions, and the chance to sell up and move somewhere where he might get a job and feed his family? The difference in circumstances between the two is black and white. Your comparison is foolish, ignorant and shallow |
|
Angel
Senior Member Joined: 03 July 2001 Status: Offline Points: 6641 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Duende, WHAT did I say in my last sentence to Hanan ????? And I an NOT being ignorant or shallow or foolish. So please excuse me for believing that both are in dire straights!!!! Sheesh!!!
|
|
~ Our feet are earthbound, but our hearts and our minds have wings ~
|
|
Angel
Senior Member Joined: 03 July 2001 Status: Offline Points: 6641 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Duende one last thing, you make it sound that the australian farmers have it easy, be sure that they DON'T have it easy, and there is not much goverment help either to hardly nothing, and if in the chance of selling the farm it won't be much that the farmers will get back adn it won't clear any debts, they can't even sell their animals if they haven't died from starvation - for the going price, its much under, and they will have a hard time in finding any other work as farming is all they know! It's very bleak. And yes in iraq it is bleak too. SO Don't sit there and tell me I am igorant and shallow when you have done the very thing you accuse me of! I never wanted to get into a debate in comparsions, and won't be continuing, I NEVER started to compare but list a few things going on to show Hanan why farmers here are in dire straights as well and that I recognise the struggle for farming! I have NEVER denied that some and certains things are different. If I did then yes tell me I am ignorant and foolish. But that's ok, I don't expect an apology Edited by Angel |
|
~ Our feet are earthbound, but our hearts and our minds have wings ~
|
|
Post Reply | Page <12 |
Tweet
|
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |