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Saul met Jesus in Acts 9. You might even say there was a prophecy received by Ananias, but I don't see that getting much traction.

I don't know of anyone who treats the OT as only a book pf prophecies about the Messiah. And we can't read into scripture what was left out.


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David,

"But Paul did meet Jesus. Or, more accurately, Saul met Jesus."

Saul did hear about Jesus but he had never met Jesus.

"Why get in a fret about prophecy when there are miracles? The next question will be since the Qu'ran clearly demonstrates that miracles exist and can be performed by prophets, why didn't Muhammad do any?"

David, the Old Testament is literally treated as mostly a book full of prophecies about the first coming of Jesus. The impression given is that most of the propehcies are arcane, which is not true. A man who would be struck by a bright flash under the bright sun, should have had some kind of prophecy, otherwise he should not have had any authority, if based only on his testimony. Paul showed no miracles.

My Muslim friends may disagree with me here but I will say that Muhammad did not really show signs or perform miracles like Moses and Jesus did. All miracles shown by Moses, Jesus and others were actually performed by God for them, not by those individuals.

Muhammad's greatest miracle is the Qur'aan that was recited to him, giving him the knowledge and power of reasoning, arguing and debating/discussing about God with people. 
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But Paul did meet Jesus. Or, more accurately, Saul met Jesus.

Why get in a fret about prophecy when there are miracles? The next question will be since the Qu'ran clearly demonstrates that miracles exist and can be performed by prophets, why didn't Muhammad do any?

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Originally posted by bmzsp bmzsp wrote:

My question: Is there a single prophecy about Paul in the Jewish Holy Scriptures or the Christian Old Testament? If the NT had to have so much material and teaching from Paul who overran Jesus in teaching, there should have been some prophecies about Paul too. I  find nothing.

It is logical question. The Paul writings and the OT writings are both such large volumes, by right the OT should say something about him.

I am so eager to hear any opinion on this.
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The reason I asked that question is:

For Paul to have spoken so much about a person and his teachings, a person whom he never met, there should have been some prophecies about Paul in the past scriptures instead of relying on his own story or testimony given in the NT.

Of course, I am not suggesting that Paul was the spirit of truth or the holy spirit or the Comforter or the advocate.

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"What is your question?  And what does the phrase "overran Jesus in teaching" mean?"

My question: Is there a single prophecy about Paul in the Jewish Holy Scriptures or the Christian Old Testament?

The phrase "overran Jesus in teaching" means that he taught far more than what Jesus did and what Jesus did not.

Paul overshadows Jesus in the NT interms of letters, speeches and stories.
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What is your question?  And what does the phrase "overran Jesus in teaching" mean?
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Happy New Year, Reepicheep

No answer to my question?
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