What if America Left?

Under the laws of war, this so-called Interim Government of Iraq is nothing more than a "puppet government."

Thanks a million, ak_m_f, I am so glad you didn't join the army! The Malaki and Karzai governments aren't effective even outside their bathrooms. They are kept alive by their US and Israel bodyguards.

Total worth of these governments or, for that matter, any other such put up jobs by any invaders, is no more than that of rubber stamps.

Ops154 wrote: Can you show me where the ELECTED government has asked the American and British troops to leave?

Under the laws of war, this so-called Interim Government of Iraq is nothing more than a "puppet government." As the belligerent occupant of Iraq the United States government is free to establish a puppet government if it so desires. But under the laws of war, the United States government remains fully accountable for the behavior of its puppet government.

These conclusions are made quite clear by paragraph 366 of U.S. Army Field Manual 27-10 (1956):

366. Local Governments Under Duress and Puppet Governments


The restrictions placed upon the authority of a belligerent government cannot be avoided by a system of using a puppet government, central or local, to carry out acts which would be unlawful if performed directly by the occupant. Acts induced or compelled by the occupant are nonetheless its acts.

As the belligerent occupant of Iraq, the United States government is obligated to ensure that its puppet Interim Government of Iraq obeys the Four Geneva Conventions of 1949, the 1907 Hague Regulations on land warfare, U.S. Army Field Manual 27-10 (1956), the humanitarian provisions of Additional Protocol I of 1977 to the Four Geneva Conventions of 1949, and the customary international laws of war. Any violation of the laws of war, international humanitarian law, and human rights committed by its puppet Interim Government of Iraq are legally imputable to the United States government. As the belligerent occupant of Iraq, both the United States government itself as well as its concerned civilian officials and military officers are fully and personally responsible under international criminal law for all violations of the laws of war, international humanitarian law, and human rights committed by its puppet Interim Government of Iraq such as, for example, reported death squads operating under the latter's auspicies.

Furthermore, it was a total myth, fraud, lie, and outright propaganda for the Bush administration to maintain that it was somehow magically transferring "sovereignty" to its puppet Interim Government of Iraq during the summer of 2004. Under the laws of war, sovereignty is never transferred from the defeated sovereign such as Iraq to a belligerent occupant such as the United States.



This is made quite clear by paragraph 353 of U.S. Army Field Manual 27-10 (1956): "Belligerent occupation in a foreign war, being based upon the possession of enemy territory, necessarily implies that the sovereignty of the occupied territory is not vested in the occupying power. Occupation is essentially provisional."

If there were any doubt about this matter, then please read paragraph 358 of U.S. Army Field Manual 27-10 (1956) makes this legal fact crystal clear:


358. Occupation Does Not Transfer Sovereignty


Being an incident of war, military occupation confers upon the invading force the means of exercising control for the period of occupation. It does not transfer the sovereignty to the occupant, but simply the authority or power to exercise some of the rights of sovereignty. The exercise of these rights results from the established power of the occupant and from the necessity of maintaining law and order, indispensable both to the inhabitants and the occupying force. . . .

Therefore, the United States government never had any "sovereignty" in the first place to transfer to its puppet Interim Government of Iraq. In Iraq the sovereignty still resides in the hands of the people of Iraq and in the state known as the Republic of Iraq, where it has always been. The legal regime described above will continue so long as the United States remains the belligerent occupant of Iraq. Only when that U.S. belligerent occupation of Iraq is factually terminated can the people of Iraq have the opportunity to exercise their international legal right of sovereignty by means of free, fair, democratic, and uncoerced elections. So as of this writing, the United States and the United Kingdom remain the belligerent occupants of Iraq despite their bogus "transfer" of their non-existent "sovereignty" to their puppet Interim Government of Iraq.


Edited by ak_m_f

Whisper wrote: I just wondered how they feel about all that has happened there? I hope, you won't mind if I asked you your age? This one is an exceptionally intelligent question if you are 8 something. Otherwise, beyond that age, most folks, unless they are utter Americans, do know how people feel when they are bombed into stoneage and occupied. Do they want the American and British troops to leave? How could anyone ever dream of let alone want the HangLow-American masters of the universe to leave? As you know, these troops were invited. Tony showed the embossed invitaton card to his most trusted cabinet members - remember the one, which David Kelly thought was a bit sexed up! I am glad they got rid of that chap well and proper and without even leaving one fingerprint anywhere! The troops will leave just once the job is done. It's a simple job and only the Brits are the global experts on that. They want to do with Iraq exactly what they did with India, Palestine, tried with Malaya, but failed for some reason. You will agree that no one can partition, Balkanise and creat exciting lasting bloodbaths than our Great Brits. Once the job of breaking Iraq apart is done, my friend, just wait and see, how these troops will leave, as is the long held Brit tradition, just at the stroke of Mid Night!  What do they want to happen in their country now? Do they really have any say about their own lives in the face of our imperial lords' might?

 

Can you show me where the ELECTED government has asked the American and British troops to leave?

Leii,

An honest answer to your question could not come from an Iraqi or Afghani living in the west.  I know of many Iraqis here in the US that support the invasion.  But they are not the ones fearing suicide bombers while grocery shopping or after Jummah. And they aren't the ones having American soldiers busting down their doors and carrying off their husbands and fathers on suspicion of being insurgent sympathizers.  To get a true reaction, you'd need to actually talk to the people LIVING in the War Zone.  And not those Iraqis getting wealthy and fat in there American imposed positions of power.