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Assalamu alaika Caringheart.

This is from the Qur'an 30:41: Evil (sins and disobedience to Allah) has appeared on land and sea because of what the hands of men have earned (by oppression and evil deeds) that He (Allah) may make them taste a part of that which they have done, in order that they may return (by repenting to Allah and begging His Pardon). What of the remains of your cathedral?

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Assalamu alaikum.

But who will initiate and maintain continuity? Nature? The expected earthquake? Sandy hurricane?
Is he above all of mankind? Certainly cannot be Abraham, Moses or Jesus son of Maryam. The worst of them is Muhammad Rasulullah! He was innocent for he said: Bring a Book from Allah superior to the Torah (the written and oral law of Moses and what is revealed to me the Qur'an) so that I may follow it for guidance if you are telling the truth.

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Read the Qur'an 22:12-13: He calls besides Allah unto him that which can neither harm hit, nor profit him. That is straying far away. He calls unto him whose harm is nearer than his profit: certainly, an evil patron and certainly an evil friend!

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Assalamu alaikum.

Saying something about Muhammad Rasulullah is different from bare reading the holy Qur'an that the Western civilization has been encouraged to do but get misled. Read about his history and you will see the justification. I am not here to argue on Muhammad.

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Originally posted by abuayisha abuayisha wrote:

Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:

We need leaders who will put forth a return to faith and stop putting faith in our own abilities as humans.
 
Are you calling for a theocracy? And who's faith should guide our leaders?  Indeed a slippery slope in a democracy. Also, I'm sure some would argue that your own ability as a human, and your "faith" they are one in the same.


Our leaders simply need to point us all to something higher than ourselves.. to something higher than themselves. 

Change must come from the people themselves and leaders need to encourage change.    When society goes off course, and positive change is needed, the top needs to use its influence, not power, to guide the people towards change.  Change must be encouraged.  No amount of making laws will change a society if the people are not changed.  Look at Syria trying to force its will.  The people want a change.
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Originally posted by schmikbob schmikbob wrote:

Are you really suggesting that a lack of faith in God created this horror?
Is this based on information or just another knee jerk.
 


It means that I see that evil is widely abroad in the world and there is only one thing that can truly combat evil.

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Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:

We need leaders who will put forth a return to faith and stop putting faith in our own abilities as humans.
 
Are you calling for a theocracy? And who's faith should guide our leaders?  Indeed a slippery slope in a democracy. Also, I'm sure some would argue that your own ability as a human, and your "faith" they are one in the same.
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