Contrasting Qur'an and Ahadith of Muhammad. - Event Date: 17 November 2012 |
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Abu Loren
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I've never ever claimed to fully know the Holy Qur'an or the Sunnah, I never will. All I'm saying is that you seem to preach something here that is against Islam and you seem to suggest that you know the hidden inner meanings of the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah. To me, you know absolutely nothing. You seem to take books written by nobodies as your guide. I'd say that you a very confused person to put it mildly. May Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala guide you Ameen.
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Friendship
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Abu Loren
You are still dribbling.You are joking to say that you know the Qur'an and the Sunna. You do not know the meaning and the direction. It is impossible to understand the meaning without reading the Arab texts. Reciting the Qur'an and quoting hadith is not understanding. For example you do not understand what is meant by the 9th of Zulhajj. It does not mean the 9th. This is the way you are misleading those who entered Islam. They read without correcting any one on the Sunna. Please take leave from now. Friendship. |
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Abu Loren
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All the Sahabas followed and obeyed the commands from the Holy Qur'an then they followd and obeyed Rasoolallah (Salallahu Alayhi Wa Sallam). But what you are spewing out in almost all of your posts here has nothing to do with either, hence the reason I called you a deviant. I don't have to ask any scholar to know that what you write here is heresy! Of course I know the difference between the Holy Qur'an and the Sunnah, unfortunately it's you who doesn't as you put the Sunnah above the Qur'an. Answer me this, do you worship Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala or the Prophet (Salallahu Alayhi Wa Sallam)?
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Friendship
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Assalamu alaikum. Abu Loren.
Please stop fiddling about and answer my questions. There is no difference in understanding the Sunna between you and any Sahaba. You are fond of saying that there are 10 Sahabas Allah promised paradise. What did they do to merit that? If you do what they did you will also enter paradise. so it is important to know their history. That is not in the Qur'an! Look there is no difference between hadith and the history of Muhammad. The first book in Islam is on the history of Muhammad. All I am saying is that for each statement I make ask your scholars in Abu Dhabi. If he disagrees with me then I can tell him the book to read. It is unfortunate that you do not know the difference between the Qur'an and the Sunna. Arabs according to their culture respect equality and demand for it. Since you cannot read Islamic books in Arabic and you do not possess one, please mind your own business and prepare for your meeting with Allah. I know the KAP of you followers of Muhammad. Friendship. |
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Abu Loren
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Wa Alaikkum As'alaam If I remember correctly you were saying in another post that the Sunnah of the Prophet (Salallahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) takes precedent over the Holy Qur'an which is from Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala. This tells me that you are a deviant Muslim. You also advocate that the future of Islam lies with the Jewish Rabbis. Your guidance seems to be books written by other people, you seem to be awed with the history of the Prophet (Salallahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) as written by modern writers than accepting the Hadiths. I may not be a scholar like you but I'm happy to know that if I practice the five pillars of Islam then it gives me a chance of salvation.
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Friendship
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Assalamu alaika Loren.
Thanks very much. But you have not answered an important question if you actually read Islamic books in Arabic. However, your answer reveals that you do not pursue scholarship and that you are the one who relies on being deceived and finally to be disappointed in the Hereafter. In the first place you have displayed your ignorance by not knowing the population of the people of Noah. It has been mentioned. Please ask your scholars in Abu Dabi. This is not an important issue for Allah will not ask you on that. I mean it is not part of the Scale You have been accusing me of not been a Muslim while you have proved that you are not a Muslim as you have performed the hajj on a day not performed by Muhammad Rasulullah. The hajj was not performed on the 9th. Please read your books on the history of Muhammad and you will come to understand. Allah will not accept your excuse in the hereafter of failing to know the Sunna of Muhammad. Your double ignorance highlights the hadith of the holy apostle: An Arab is not superior to a non-Arab and vice-versa except by Taqwa. Respect yourself and guard yourself from the hellfire for the holy apostle says: Whoever said something about the Qur'an on his opinion or his ignorance, let him find his place in the hellfire. Friendship. |
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Abu Loren
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I don't know the population of Noah because Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala in the Holy Qur'an nor the Holy Prophet (Salallahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) in the Hadiths mention this. The Day of Arafat was observed on the 9th of Dhul Hijjah. Ibn �Umar said the Apostle of Allaah() proceeded from Mina when he offered the dawn prayer on Yaum Al �Arafah (9th of Dhu Al Hijjah) in the morning till he came to �Arafah and he descended at Namrah. This is the place where the imam (prayer leader at �Arafah) takes his place. When the time of the noon prayer came, the Apostle of Allaah() proceeded earlier and combined the noon and afternoon prayers. He then addressed the people (i.e., recited the sermon) and proceeded. He stationed at a place of stationing in �Arafah.
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Friendship
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Assalamu alaika Lore.
Thanks very much for your answer. Please let me know if you can read Arabic and secondly do you believe that one is not supposed to explain Islam without knowing the life history of Muhammad? Please tell this forum the books you have on his history. Let me ask you this question which is unnecessary: What is the population of the people of Noah? The second question which is essential for you to know is: When was the Arafat day observed by the holy apostle? Loren , you know very well that Muhammad does not allow discussing his way of life with the illiterates. My aim is to explain Islam to those interested in knowing about it, and not like you if you are a Muslim. May Allah forgive me! Friendship. |
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