CHRISTIANS:YOU ARE NOT ISRAELITES

Caringheart wrote: I'm pretty sure Christians know that they are not "Israelites" but they were "grafted in' to the family of God. They do not need to be Israelites. Do Muslims need to be Israelites to belong to God? So I'm not really sure the point of the thread. ?

Jesus came for Israelites. Christians claim him for themselves. You do not see the point? Only israelites should be concerned with Jesus.

Caringheart wrote: Mahdi The Seeke wrote: Caringheart wrote: I'm pretty sure Christians know that they are not "Israelites" but they were "grafted in' to the family of God. They do not need to be Israelites. Do Muslims need to be Israelites to belong to God? So I'm not really sure the point of the thread. ? Jesus came for Israelites. Christians claim him for themselves. You do not see the point? Only israelites should be concerned with Jesus. Isaiah 42 A covenant for 'the people' A light for (all) the nations I can also defer to Experiential: "first to the Jews, later to the Gentiles" [IMG]smileys/smiley27.gif" align="middle" />

If Jesus says one thing and other people claim different, i have to take Jesus' word.

Caringheart wrote: I am deferring to experiential where he says; "Read - Mt 10:18; 24:14; 28:18-20; Mk 13:10; 14:9; 16:15; Lk 4:25-30; 24:47; Jn 17:20-21: Acts 1:8. 20:28 = Mk 10:45; Jn 3:16; 4:42; 12:32, Mt 8:11-12; 21:43; 25:31-32; Lk 13:28-30; Jn 10:16; 11:52." � Have you read any of what Jesus had to say of which he referred you to? � You would also have to read the acts of the apostles to understand how the message of Jesus was�taken�to include�the gentiles. [IMG]smileys/smiley27.gif" height="17" width="17" align="absmiddle" alt="Heart" />

Acts of the Apostles was written by Paul who started this Judo-Pagan new religion called Christianity. He has nothing to do with Jesus (pbuh) nor God. He is a liar and an agent for the Roman Empire.

John 17
18 As thou hast sent Me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
19 And for their sakes I set myself apart, that they also might be set apart through the truth.
20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on Me through their word;

21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in Me, and I in Thee, that they also may be one in Us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

22 And the glory which thou gavest Me I have given them; that they may be one, even as We are one:

23 I in them, and Thou in Me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent Me, and hast loved them, as Thou hast loved Me.

25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known Thee: but I have known Thee, and these have known that Thou hast sent Me.

26 And I have declared unto them Thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved Me may be in them, and I in them. [Holy Spirit]

Edited by Caringheart - 08 September 2012 at 2:48pm