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Jazakallahu khair.

I would like to draw your kind attention to the following excerpts from the article in that link:

Shaykhul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah confrims this in his celebrated Fataawa where he says, "The Prophet (upon whom be peace and blessings) allowed certain forms of amusement at the wedding festivity and similar celebrations. During the Prophet's era, none of the men used to beat upon the daff or slap his hands [in rhythm]. Rather, it has been authentically related that the Prophet said, 'Clapping is for women and tasbeeh (*193) is for men,' (*194)
The article further says,
Celebrating may be done at the arrival of a respected guest, relative or personality, such as a pious scholar, or at the return of Muslim warriors (mujaahideen) or a long-estranged loved one. In these cases, innocent poems and songs may be sung to the accompaniment of the simple daff. (*198)
But according to what was said in the previous quote men cannot beat drums or clap. Would it mean that at the welcome ceremonies women should be called upon to sing & beat the duff and clap their hands contrary to the rule that women's voice should not be audible to strange men?

Please read the following excerpts also:

Buraydah said, "Allah's Messenger left for one of his expeditions and upon his return, a black slave-girl came to him saying, 'Oh Messenger of Allah, verily, I vowed that if Allah returned you safely I would beat the daff and sing (*201) in your presence.' (*202) Allah's Messenger said to her,' If you made a vow, (*203) then fulfill it by beating the daff, otherwise don't.' (*204) Upon this she began to beat the hand drum, during which Abu Bakr entered, then Ali, followed by Uthmaan. Upon Umar's entering, she threw the daff under her backside and sat on it, whereupon Allah's Messenger said, 'Verily, Satan fears you, Oh Umar!'" (*205)

The woman was permitted by the Prophet on her request to sing but at the same time the Prophet's remarks to Omar indicate that what the woman did was a Satanic act. The Prophet would never permit a satanic act. Kindly clarify.

Edited by abosait - 19 June 2012 at 10:21pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Matt Browne Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 June 2012 at 2:47am
I found this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_music#Nasheed

"Nasheeds are moral, religious songs sung in various melodies by some Muslims of today without any musical instruments. This type of singing of moral songs without instrumentation is considered as permissible by many Muslims."
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote abosait Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2012 at 11:04pm
Originally posted by abuayisha abuayisha wrote:

Allah guide you.

Allah the Exalted said: �And establish the prayer�. What is the number of rakats (that should be made)? And what are the prayer times? Also Allah said: �And pay the zakat�. What is the nisaab? And how much should be paid in zakat?

 

So?

Kindly elaborate on that and throw some light on the issue of music.

And by the way does anyone know what sort of musical instruments were being used in Arabia at the time of the Prophet Sallallahu 'alaihi wasallam.

Assalamu 'alaykum wa rahmatullah.



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Slave means a person who is bound to obey his master.
A thing is that will Allah give u any order without any reason.
A person who will give order without his benefit what u will say him.
I thing foolish.But Allah is not foolish.Than have the answer?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sign*Reader Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 April 2012 at 7:41pm
Originally posted by asheque asheque wrote:

Do you know why it is necessary to worship to Allah.
Allah says that i didn't give you anything without reason.
So there is must some reasons for those worship.
So do you know why?


It is master and slave relationship that precludes options. You do what the master tells you to do till you learns the ways of the master and have a better understanding of it all. It is a monumental subject that I have touched. When the slave questions the master's orders the relationship/contract  stands severed till the time it is reestablished. Every master wants the worship as proof of the relationship. There are  innumerable example of even the kings in this world and their slaves who ended up inheriting the thrones. That should tell you something.

Further to learn the ways and means to establish justice on the beastly men that inhabit the lands and seas.

This world and things in it run also on a master slave relationship, some seen and other unseen, on micro and macro scales. The man made machines run on the same principle if you like to get into that area.


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Originally posted by asheque asheque wrote:

Assalam Alaikum..

Just another thing that to know from  bothers is about the issue of music. Some say music is forbidden. Some say if the music does not have certain frequencies it is allowed. Some say it is no harm in listening to any music.

Request for comments.

Please elaborate the context of people who are making these judgement calls about music. Thanks


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Do you know why it is necessary to worship to Allah.
Allah says that i didn't give you anything without reason.
So there is must some reasons for those worship.
So do you know why?
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