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 Rahman Shaik wrote:

Hi Caringheart, 
I have been wondering for some time about concept of Soul and spirit and found that many have mixed up Nafz and Ruh. In Quran it is not mentioned anywhere that both are same. In fact if you analyse Quran, you will find a striking pattern in the use of these two words - Nafz and Ruh.

Nafz can be translated as Soul., and Ruh as Spirit.

Allah (SWT) is saying in Quran that he created us from one Nafz and spread us from there., and he is referring to our personality as Nafz in all the verses. It is the Nafz that is taken during sleep and death (some muslims still think its Ruh that is taken during death where as that verse doesnt contain the word Ruh at all). Its the Nafz that is put to trail, its the Nafz that is rewarded/punished in the hereafter.

It the Nafz we have to refine (from state of Ammara to Mutmainnah with which Allah SWT will be pleased and grant paradise, InshaAllah). Some muslims think that we have to refine our Ruh.. which is not an authentic concept as per Quran.

Spirit (Ruh) is blown in Adam and it will be blown in to every baby by an angel. This is not same as Nafz. In the hadith Arruh is mentioned means its referring to that same Ruh which belongs to Allah (SWT). People confuse here thinking that what is being blown is a personal Ruh of that person.. this concept is incorrect. 

So if there are 10 people, they are different in the sense that each has their own Nafz., but they all have common Ruh which is from Allah (SWT)

Ruh is used in 3 contexts in Quran - 

1) Min-ruhi (Ruh from Allah) that is blown in to humans; 
2) Ruh ul Quddus /Ruh al Amin referring to Jibael (AS)
3) Ruh ullah - referrring to Isa (Jesus) (AS)

Ruh is not a physical element so rules of numbers do not apply to it.,  how all the above Ruhs are related is not in our knowledge. Allah SWT is saying in one verse that we are given very little knowledge about this Ruh.,

As far as my findings go this should be the correct understanding., A common misconception that Nafz and Ruh are one and the same is causing all this confusion.

Hope you can now see similarity between christianity concept and Islamic., will be glad to hear from you on this subject.,

Abd-Rahman.

As Salam mu alikum Shaik!

Just for some clarifications, I have been thought that Allah
bread in the �soul� into Adam and when I ask the question; why the soul, I was
told that the scholar inter change the translation. I also found many Sheiks
used the word �soul� and that confused me so I decided to do a research on it,
it is then I recognize the difference between the Spirit (Nafz) and Soul (Ruh),
and it is I who come up with the reasoning that each person have his own spirit
(Ruh). The reason for that is because of the original creation in Heaven when
Allah (S) created Adam and his descendant�s there before they were put on
earth.

�When
thy Lord drew forth from the Children of Adam - from their loins - their
descendants, and made them testify concerning themselves,
(saying): �Am I not your Lord (who cherishes and sustains you)?� They
said: �Yea! We do testify!� (This), lest
ye should say on the Day of Judgment: �Varily, we have been unaware of this� 

  Or
lest ye should say: �It was Our fathers before us may have taken false gods,
but we are (their) descendants after them: wilt Thou then destroy us
who took others as partnesrin worship along with Allah, and we were (merely
their) decendants after them; will you then destroy us because of the deeds of
men?�  Al-A'raf (The Heights) 7:172-173   

The Hadith conforms
that it is the Ruh (Spirit) the angel brought from heaven to put in side the
child after 6 weeks and not the soul (Nafz). So if when we were back there in
the beginning what form were we Ruh (Spirit) or Nafz (soul)? Please explain.

Also it mentioned in the
Qur�an: 

�Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah
and the Last Day, loving those who oppose Allah and His Messenger, even though
they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred. For
such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with a spirit from Himself. And He will admit them to Gardens beneath which
Rivers flow, to dwell therein (for ever). Allah will be well pleased with them,
and they with Him. They are the Party of Allah (Hezbullah). Truly it is the
Party of Allah that will achieve Success.� (Qur�an 58:22)

Please explain what
is this spirit from Himself. 

Br. zainool

Edited by truthnowcome - 28 March 2013 at 12:10am